GDT: 2023 Trade Deadline

[NjdevilfanJim]

We will be ok if leave both.

What would your offer be?

 

[Guadana]

Elliotte and Frank both have said expect this to end up being less than Debrincat. I think ultimately it might end up being a bit more but it shouldn't be crazy.

I'm ok to trade more. Because Timo is young, fit well, we have cap space, this team compete now and there is the full national Swiss team. He should want to sign with us.
And we have plenty good defensive prospects in both sides to mess Casey and Shakir or even both.

I don't think that SJ can make "a lot if bodies" trade because they are under pressure of 50 people limit. So I believe they should spend every spot smartly. If they will trade Z or Y, I would say Grier is idiot, because both are 24+ this summer. Both are good players for retool, but gms don't trade players like meier for retool. Im always trying to think about people that they are better or could be better, so I'm not waiting Z or Y trade.

 

[Mgd31]

Ideal offer from me is Holtz, Sharangovich and a 1st.

Meier-Hughes-Bratt
Tatar-Hischier-Mercer
Palat-Haula-Zetterlund
Wood/Boqvist-McLeod-Bastian

Maybe you upgrade that 4th line LW spot too

 

[Guadana]

What would your offer be?

I would started from 1st+Holtz+Yegor, than 1st+ Holtz+ Casey/Shakir. If Sj want it, I would add 2/3 round pick.i truly think that Meier will sign with us even if there are no negotiations before trade.

 

[bigd]

Sources are telling me Timo is just about ours

I'm hearing the same thing.

 

[Hisch13r]

Ideal offer from me is Holtz, Sharangovich and a 1st.

Meier-Hughes-Bratt
Tatar-Hischier-Mercer
Palat-Haula-Zetterlund
Wood/Boqvist-McLeod-Bastian

Maybe you upgrade that 4th line LW spot too

I go back and forth on Yegor or Muk. Either one works just fine. I don't think there's too much of a long term impact role for either of them here so I might lean towards wanting to keep Yegor. I'd probably have him on the 4th line or scratched tbh but if there's an injury in the top 9 I'd feel much more comfortable having him around and being able to toss him into a top 9 role. With me not seeing much of a long term fit for either I probably keep Yegor for the short term utility if I had a choice between the 2

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

I would started from 1st+Holtz+Yegor, than 1st+ Holtz+ Casey/Shakir. If Sj want it, I would add 2/3 round pick.i truly think that Meier will sign with us even if there are no negotiations before trade.

I agree I think Fitz will sign him asap....Having Meier also does protect against Bratt's situation....I want him signed but if it goes bad with his agent we can trade him....

 

[DevilDog]

I would started from 1st+Holtz+Yegor, than 1st+ Holtz+ Casey/Shakir. If Sj want it, I would add 2/3 round pick.i truly think that Meier will sign with us even if there are no negotiations before trade.

I’m hesitant to include Muk on a deal because of Gritsyuk’s comments about how he is looking forward to having Muk lead the way to NJ for him to follow. What’s your opinion on this? Would trading Shakir negatively impact Grits’ future with the team?

 

[Hisch13r]

lol I mean I get the premise here that Carolina offered their best deal and it wasn't enough but it's funny to me thinking that SJ is like "you're out". Carolina comes back to them with Aho, Svechnikov, and Slavin but it doesn't matter because SJ said they're already out

 

[Lou is God]

So us and Vegas...?

 

[Hisch13r]

So us and Vegas...?

More like us and some random team that could come out of the blue like Columbus. I'd be floored if it's Vegas.

 

[Devs3cups]

So us and Vegas...?

There is no realistic offer that Vegas can make that can beat ours. I’m 99% sure of that.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I wonder who the Canes pivot to? There was that JT Miller rumor, but Vancouver seems to be a bullshit factory.

If Timo ends up on some random team like the BJs out of nowhere that will be the ultimate rug pull.

 

[Mgd31]

I wonder who the Canes pivot to? There was that JT Miller rumor, but Vancouver seems to be a bullshit factory.

If Timo ends up on some random team like the BJs out of nowhere that will be the ultimate rug pull.

Schmaltz. Cost controlled for 3 more years

 

[Clam Jensen]

Sources are telling me Timo is just about ours

I know you’ve had some wild takes here over the past year, but do have anything to back this up, or are you just getting off on edging the entire board?

 

[Hisch13r]

 

[Guadana]

I’m hesitant to include Muk on a deal because of Gritsyuk’s comments about how he is looking forward to having Muk lead the way to NJ for him to follow. What’s your opinion on this? Would trading Shakir negatively impact Grits’ future with the team?

I think we are overthinking it. Arseniy regularly watch devils social media, he understand his potential and many times talks about his future. He just didn't rush it and wants to repeat the path of other khl successers. He has obvious ceiling higher than 50 points in nhl(im not telling he will hit it, we never know) and it gives him more money than he can gain in khl. And odcourse the level of competition. He is talented player who is looking for more.

And I prefer to save Shakir. Fir now he is best prospect outside Nemec and Luke. I'm just understand why he can be a part of the package for Timmo.

 

[hidek91]

I've said this before...

I don't really care if Meier comes with an extension or not. I believe he'll give us a discount, but if not, I truly believe we can flip him in the off-season for a significant return and recoup a lot of what we pay.

I honestly believe a lot of stupid GMs out there would pony up when they have more cap space to work with.

I disagree with that. Once a Meier just accepts his QO at 10M, after which he becomes an UFA, his value will dwindle down.

 

[Hisch13r]

I think we are overthinking it. Arseniy regularly watch devils social media, he understand his potential and many times talks about his future. He just didn't rush it and wants to repeat the path of other khl successers. He has obvious ceiling higher than 50 points in nhl(im not telling he will hit it, we never know) and it gives him more money than he can gain in khl. And odcourse the level of competition. He is talented player who is looking for more.

And I prefer to save Shakir. I'm just understand why he can be a part of the package for Timmo.

Yeah Gritsyuk still doesn't even turn 22 for another 3 weeks. Like sure it'd be nice for him to come over but we don't need him yet. Him coming over in say 2 years at 23/24 when we're tighter up against the cap could even work out better.

 

[Billdo]

I've said this before...

I don't really care if Meier comes with an extension or not. I believe he'll give us a discount, but if not, I truly believe we can flip him in the off-season for a significant return and recoup a lot of what we pay.

I honestly believe a lot of stupid GMs out there would pony up when they have more cap space to work with.

How though? If he's a rental we pay x amount of dollars. If we're trading his rights in the off season the return can't be "significant" unless I'm missing something which is entirely possible.

 

[Guadana]

Yeah Gritsyuk still doesn't even turn 22 for another 3 weeks. Like sure it'd be nice for him to come over but we don't need him yet. Him coming over in say 2 years at 23/24 when we're tighter up against the cap could even work out better.

We have luxury to be patient in this case. Im not ready to say that he is better than Holtz or Holtz us better than him, but its much more harder to develop Holtz when he doesn't have top-6 opportunities in NHL. Reason why its time to make a trade. I think its better for both sides, especially when we have Bratt and Mercer, and if we can save Z for bottom/top-6 insurance role, where Z is much better fit.

 

[MauDevils]

More worried about Vegas than Carolina at this point

Yeah...something seems off here.

A team with no assets is still hanging around this late in the game? They've been called the dark horse and yesterday mentioned as the team he wants to sign with.

 

[Mgd31]

Yeah...something seems off here.

A team with no assets is still hanging around this late in the game? They've been called the dark horse and yesterday mentioned as the team he wants to sign with.

Fiala to LA situation

 

[Hisch13r]

Vegas would have to be offering like Cormier+Brisson+2 1sts

 

[Patrik26]

Yeah...something seems off here.

A team with no assets is still hanging around this late in the game? They've been called the dark horse and yesterday mentioned as the team he wants to sign with.

Vegas being Vegas keeping themselves in the spotlight regardless of the situation and whether it helps or hurts the team. Should've been named the Vegas Circus.