2015 NHL Entry Draft Discussion - April 2015 Post Season

[one77]

If we take Strome or Marner at 4 and trade for 6-8 and take Barzal, I have no issue with the rest of our picks in the draft being defencemen, along with our first next year. I think having Strome/Marner, Barzal, Nylander and Brown goes a long way.

I would be very happy with Marner + Barzal.

But I would be even happier with Marner + Hanifin

Somewhat realistically, I would be happy with Marner + Provorov as well. And J. Roy with the NAS pick.

 

[Terrence]

Yes, 64 is almost a late 2nd. There is still talent to be had around there. 3 guys I'm interested in are Travis Dermott, Gabriel Gagne, and Austin Wagner.

 

[Bernier the Boats]

I would be very happy with Marner + Barzal.

But I would be even happier with Marner + Hanifin

Somewhat realistically, I would be happy with Marner + Provorov as well. And J. Roy with the NAS pick.

What about Size? Grit? Heart? Truculence? Pugnacity? Abrasiveness? Boardwork? Little plays? Hits? Fights? PIMs? LA had big centres! If you aren't big you're so easy to play against!

 

[Bernier the Boats]

Sports and Moore has some cool profiles on players from the Q. I'll post some for the players in consideration for our picks:

Anthony Beauvillier


Jeremy Roy


Filip Chlapik


Jakub Zboril


Evgeny Svechnikov


Thomas Chabot

 

[Orbital]

Who are we all hoping for with the 64th pick? I think there will be some great talent available in that range.

Some that interest me: Ilya Samsonov, Jack Roslovic, Christian Fischer, Jesper Lindgren, Nathan Noel, Jens Lööke, Jacob Larsson, Thomas Novak.

Some will be there, some won't, but all are pretty interesting.

i think Shanny is going to be busy on the phones! Who would you trade for a 2nd round pick? Lupul,Bozak?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

i think Shanny is going to be busy on the phones! Who would you trade for a 2nd round pick? Lupul,Bozak?

Both. Maybe even Reimer. We'd get a couple other pieces in there also, but 3 2nd's is pretty good. On top of the major hauls we'll be getting for Phaneuf and Kessel, and whatever else we get from whomever else we trade, and we'll have plenty of assets at our disposal.

 

[weems]

I've been pimping Meloche for awhile.
Here's a good post on him from a Q viewer.

"I still think he is a very worthy first rounder, stock might have dropped because of a late-season injury but he is awesome. I saw him as the #2 defender out of the Q for this draft early in the season, and I'm having a hard time changing my stance.

He's got everything you could wish for in a D, he is big, mobile, he is smart has good vision, can dish out the hits, can join the rush, big clapper from the point, can be on the PP or PK and logs a ton of ice time.

He's the #1 D for Baie-Comeau and has played very well in the playoffs, they are in game 7 in round 2 right now.

He is extremely impressive and has a lot of poise anyone that drafts him outside of the top-15 is getting a steal to me. But honestly this draft is so deep even the teams drafting late 1st round will be getting gems so... perhaps he falls a bit.

His upside is a top-pairing D; 35-40 pts with good D and physical play."

He's my top guy with the NASH pick.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I made a mock draft.

flame away.


http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1882759

 

[Teeder9]

I made a mock draft.

flame away.


http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1882759

This is what you think happens? I would probably agree for the most part in that case

 

[Rare Jewel]

This is what you think happens? I would probably agree for the most part in that case

Part of it's gut/draft tendency, Part of it's speculation/rumour based and another part is there's a lot of people posting mock drafts that look similar; So I wanted mine to be a bit different, But still kind of plausible.

 

[The_Chosen_One]

I've been pimping Meloche for awhile.
Here's a good post on him from a Q viewer.

"I still think he is a very worthy first rounder, stock might have dropped because of a late-season injury but he is awesome. I saw him as the #2 defender out of the Q for this draft early in the season, and I'm having a hard time changing my stance.

He's got everything you could wish for in a D, he is big, mobile, he is smart has good vision, can dish out the hits, can join the rush, big clapper from the point, can be on the PP or PK and logs a ton of ice time.

He's the #1 D for Baie-Comeau and has played very well in the playoffs, they are in game 7 in round 2 right now.

He is extremely impressive and has a lot of poise anyone that drafts him outside of the top-15 is getting a steal to me. But honestly this draft is so deep even the teams drafting late 1st round will be getting gems so... perhaps he falls a bit.

His upside is a top-pairing D; 35-40 pts with good D and physical play."

He's my top guy with the NASH pick.

Nicolas Meloche is someone I wouldn't mind drafting. He reminds me of Seabrook in that he's big, mobile, two-way and has a wide offensive toolset.

Much like Seabrook, he isn't really aggressive even though he can be physical. He would be perfect for Rielly. We need really do need a RHD that can play a calming game on the back end while having good enough mobility.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

It's alright. There are some bold picks, and bold picks are my taste.

Edmonton Oilers: Connor McDavid - Center - Erie
Buffalo Sabres: Jack Eichel - Center - Boston University
Arizona Coyotes: Noah Hanifin - Defenseman - Boston College
Toronto Maple Leafs: Dylan Strome - Center - Erie
Carolina Hurricanes: Mitchell Marner - Center/Right Wing - London
New Jersey Devils: Mikko Rantanen - Right Wing/Center - TPS
Philadelphia Flyers: Lawson Crouse - Left Wing - Kingston
Columbus Blue Jackets: Ivan Provorov - Defenseman - Brandon
San Jose Sharks: Zach Werenski - Defenseman - Michigan
Los Angeles Kings (COL): Matthew Barzal - Center - Seattle
Florida Panthers: Timo Meier - Right Wing - Halifax
Dallas Stars: Nick Merkley - Center/Right Wing - Kelowna
Colorado Avalanche (LAK): Pavel Zacha - Center/Left Wing - Sarnia
Boston Bruins: Jansen Harkins - Center - Prince George

 

[Orbital]

Both. Maybe even Reimer. We'd get a couple other pieces in there also, but 3 2nd's is pretty good. On top of the major hauls we'll be getting for Phaneuf and Kessel, and whatever else we get from whomever else we trade, and we'll have plenty of assets at our disposal.

TO:8th +Jenner
Columbus: Kessel
8th =Barzal

 

[LaPlante94]

Dmytro Timashov is his name. Good player, also like Senyshyn and Dunn, but I thought they were for sure gone by 64.

I know Dunn will, but I feel Senyshyn could be available because teams always start picking unknown or players people had projected later after the 1st 40 picks or so. I hope he's available though.

 

[papablue]

What if? Would you do it at the draft?

Okay to start. Let say:


Edmonton-Mcdavid
Buffalo-Eichel
Arizona-Strome

Philadelphia said they would like to get up to #3 or #4 they said that they also want a forward, and they are willing to give up the 1st round pick they got from Tampa.
Would you do the trade from #4 for to #7 plus that pick, if you new that that
the next 3 picks are going to be:

Philadelphia-MARNER
Carolina-HANIFIN
New Jersey-CROUSE they said they wanted a forward as well.

Now we can debate that the teams above might take different players, but
this could happen. Would you as the leafs organization give up the possibility of having any of these three players for an extra draft pick which would be in the 20s.

 

[Menzinger]

No. I'd draft Hanifin. The leafs need quality prospects more so than quantity.

 

[Jyrki Lumme]

Probably not. Provorov or Barzal would be tempting. But they're around Nylander level of talent, we need at least one player with superstar potential, which Marner and Hanifin both have. Another pick in the mid 20's doesn't make up for that.

 

[Stand Witness]

Hmm, thats a tough question. I am really high on all of Marner/Strome/Hanifin but it would be a really good offer to consider.

Even then we would be guaranteed at least one of Provorov/Barzal/Crouse and all 3 ould be debated as a half step back on the other 3.

I guess only our scouting staff could answer that. Dubas mentioned all 6 in the same tier the other day so I would assume we make the deal easily if we do think they are all in the same tier. Then again he could be playing his cards close and does feel that M/S/H are a significant amount better than P/B/C.

I would be a lot more interested in picking up another pick in the 6/7/8 range in another way (Kessel/JVR) or another mid/late pick (Dion/Bernier)

 

[Sundinisagod]

No. I'd draft Hanifin. The leafs need quality prospects more so than quantity.

This 1000%

 

[613Leafer]

Ultimately it depend on how our scouts/management rank these guys. I really like Barzal/Provorov, so Id at least strongly consider it. Id also need to have a better idea than i currently do on exactly what calibre of prospects would be available with that late 1st.

If our scouts think one of Hanifin or Marner is the real deal, and likely a future league-wide elite talent, id take that player. Worry about adding later picks with potential Kessel, Phaneuf, Bozak, JVR, etc trades.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Nope, I think we are 100% Hanifin or Strome.



We'd apparently take Crouse before Marner...

 

[NotSince67*]

Okay to start. Let say:


Edmonton-Mcdavid
Buffalo-Eichel
Arizona-Strome

Philadelphia said they would like to get up to #3 or #4 they said that they also want a forward, and they are willing to give up the 1st round pick they got from Tampa.
Would you do the trade from #4 for to #7 plus that pick, if you new that that
the next 3 picks are going to be:

Philadelphia-MARNER
Carolina-HANIFIN
New Jersey-CROUSE they said they wanted a forward as well.

Now we can debate that the teams above might take different players, but
this could happen. Would you as the leafs organization give up the possibility of having any of these three players for an extra draft pick which would be in the 20s.

IMO I'd rather try to slide from 25-24 to later and pick up a second. Could be done with Tampa (30/29 and 44th for 24/25) or Winnipeg (NYI/STL 1st from Buf, WPG 2nd for 24/25)

 

[Bullseye]

Yes. I've been suggesting we think about exactly this scenario for awhile.

Barzal, Tampa Pick (Carlo?), Nashville pick (Meloche or J.Roy)

Barzal and Marner are very close to each other talent-wise it appears.

 

[mohare]

Unless you are convinced that any of the 3 players you project to go 4-6 are for sure franchise players, its always better to do down a bit and get another pick in the first round. We are rebuilding, we need lots of good pieces, not one just one amazing piece.

I think given the choices of

4th + nashville 1st
or
7th + nashville 1st + tampa 1st

4 out of 5 would dentists agree the second option is better.

Plus we'll be terrible again next year, so we will have another high pick then.

 

[Stand Witness]

Nope, I think we are 100% Hanifin or Strome.



We'd apparently take Crouse before Marner...

Thats not the order just the group of players. Wheeler said that after because he kind of made it implied like it was.

Pretty much with the 4th pick we will take one of those guys.