2015 NHL Draft Discussion Part III

[landshark]

Brad Stuart most likely would have been a bit better had he not been sucker punched into concussionville... just saying.

As for this draft, I'd like the best D-man available with the Sharks' first round pick.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Fwiw.

I'd be shocked if he didn't.

 

[Timo Time]

I'd be shocked if he didn't.

Yeah I read that as just about every GM has 'kicked tires' just to gauge the value for the most part.

 

[SactoShark]

Maloney is being awfully candid. DW hates that.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I get the feeling Maloney is just trying to push up the price until a desperate GM does something foolish.

 

[Gilligans Island]

Maloney is being awfully candid. DW hates that.

He is. Is he normally this candid? Don't recall that he is.

 

[boylerroom]

I get the feeling Maloney is just trying to push up the price until a desperate GM does something foolish.

I think this is correct. Although I think the pick will get traded, Maloney probably wants everything and more, which he should I guess.

 

[Sharksrule04]

Believe what you want. Still curious as to whom said it. its not arguing, you made a blanket statement, I said show me.. Rathje was never going to be a #1 neither was Stuart. I'm 46 now, been there from the get-go. Neither were nothing more than middling Dmen. Obviously you
don't care to backup your opinion.

How do you expect me to back up my opinion. Pull out the 1992 draft guide from the hockey news and scan it? If you want to believe the Sharks used the 3rd overall pick on a pair of guys who had upside of "middling Dmen" go ahead and believe it.

Good thing we didn't have HF boards back then. Using the 3rd overall pick on a guy with 3rd/4th d-man potential would have "broke the internet". Also on a side note, IIRC Stuey had VERY similar numbers to Provorov back in the WHL, if not even better numbers.

I don't think you plan on using the 2nd overall pick on a defenseman you don't think would be a top pairing defenseman one day.

Yeah Stuey was touted as a #1 two way dman. Topped out at a #3 in his prime.

I also remember rumors that the Flames wanted Stuart in a trade for Fluery back in the day so I'm assuming he was highly thought of.

Thanks for some backup here...

 

[Sharksrule04]

From HF…

Looking Back: The 1998 NHL Entry Draft
By Joy Kim, December 2001

 

[Sharksrule04]

Brad Stuart most likely would have been a bit better had he not been sucker punched into concussionville... just saying.

As for this draft, I'd like the best D-man available with the Sharks' first round pick.

Yea agree, he did have a great rookie season too. I will be very happy if we come away with Provorov, even more so if we found a way to get Hanifin.

At this point I think I'll be upset regardless of who we pick because I want like 5 of these guys...all this damn prospect research.

 

[Barrie22]

How do you expect me to back up my opinion. Pull out the 1992 draft guide from the hockey news and scan it? If you want to believe the Sharks used the 3rd overall pick on a pair of guys who had upside of "middling Dmen" go ahead and believe it.

Good thing we didn't have HF boards back then. Using the 3rd overall pick on a guy with 3rd/4th d-man potential would have "broke the internet". Also on a side note, IIRC Stuey had VERY similar numbers to Provorov back in the WHL, if not even better numbers.







Thanks for some backup here...

Stuart had.

0 points in 3 games
43 points in 57 games
63 points in 70 games (draft year)
And last year 62 points in 59 games.

Provolov had 61 points in 60 games in his only season.

 

[Led Zappa]

How do you expect me to back up my opinion. Pull out the 1992 draft guide from the hockey news and scan it? If you want to believe the Sharks used the 3rd overall pick on a pair of guys who had upside of "middling Dmen" go ahead and believe it.

Good thing we didn't have HF boards back then. Using the 3rd overall pick on a guy with 3rd/4th d-man potential would have "broke the internet". Also on a side note, IIRC Stuey had VERY similar numbers to Provorov back in the WHL, if not even better numbers.







Thanks for some backup here...

We have some arguing that Mirco isn't what he should be for someone picked at his position in the draft and others saying a guy picked 3rd was expected to be about as good as Mirco looks to be. Or something like that. My mind is short circuiting.

 

[Grave]

And with the 3rd overall pick the San Jose Sharks select....



KYLE CONNOR

 

[OrrNumber4]

How do you expect me to back up my opinion. Pull out the 1992 draft guide from the hockey news and scan it? If you want to believe the Sharks used the 3rd overall pick on a pair of guys who had upside of "middling Dmen" go ahead and believe it.

Good thing we didn't have HF boards back then. Using the 3rd overall pick on a guy with 3rd/4th d-man potential would have "broke the internet". Also on a side note, IIRC Stuey had VERY similar numbers to Provorov back in the WHL, if not even better numbers.

Brad Stuart and Andrei Zyuzin were both considered potential future-Norris-winners. Admittedly, some of the hype with Zyuzin was the Russian factor and fan's hype.

Rathje's draft is a little before my time. I think the way Luke Schenn was considered by most non-TML fans is an accurate picture of how he was perceived. People fell a little too in-love with his size and expected him to develop into a more offensive force once he left the WHL. You have to remember that people back then put too much weight on a defenseman's size.

 

[Coily]

And with the 3rd overall pick the San Jose Sharks select....



KYLE CONNOR

What a typical move. Wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

What a typical move. Wouldn't be surprised.

You really think DW would move all the way up to #3 and draft Connor? That is just ridiculous.

 

[Coily]

You really think DW would move all the way up to #3 and draft Connor? That is just ridiculous.

I hope not. Terrible move.

 

[SactoShark]

And with the 3rd overall pick the San Jose Sharks select....



KYLE CONNOR

Burke saw things looking a bit bare at center, combed through the prospects available, and covered a glaring spot down the middle.

 

[pappaf2]

According to kurz, sharks are talking to rantanen for the second time tommorow. Don't know that it means anything.

 

[Coily]

Let me guess he can't skate very well. Right?

 

[Sharksrule04]

Brad Stuart and Andrei Zyuzin were both considered potential future-Norris-winners. Admittedly, some of the hype with Zyuzin was the Russian factor and fan's hype.

Rathje's draft is a little before my time. I think the way Luke Schenn was considered by most non-TML fans is an accurate picture of how he was perceived. People fell a little too in-love with his size and expected him to develop into a more offensive force once he left the WHL. You have to remember that people back then put too much weight on a defenseman's size.

Wow completely forgot about Zyuzin!! Damn, I'm embarassed.

 

[sr228]

According to kurz, sharks are talking to rantanen for the second time tommorow. Don't know that it means anything.

It just means he's one of likely several players they like and it's not surprising.

He already has NHL size, he's smart and he has some minor skating issues.

 

[Groo]

It just means he's one of likely several players they like and it's not surprising.

He already has NHL size, he's smart and he has some minor skating issues.

And he would look marvelous in teal. Simply marvelous.

 

[hohosaregood]

Ah the now standard Sharks pick with some very classic Sharks tendencies.

 

[Los Tiburones]

It would be hard to get too pissed with Ratanen. Dude played in the main Finnish league this year against men and was the second leading scorer on his team at 18. That and he's 6'4".