Prospect Info: Zach Senyshyn

[UncleRico]

It really is too bad that Senyshyn is already a bust, had his fate been determined already and it’s just time to give up and cut him loose. He’s playing some good hockey this year.

Looks like Senyshyn finally is getting some powerplay time.

 

[TCB]

It really is too bad that Senyshyn is already a bust, had his fate been determined already and it’s just time to give up and cut him loose. He’s playing some good hockey this year.

Its really too bad but no fault of his own that Sweeney decided to go for a major reach with Barzal and Conner still on the board.

He could have a productive career or he may be a career AHL but either way he will always be labeled as the guy the Bruins took when Barzal and Connor were still on the board.

There's no sense of defending the pick. It was a bonehead decision, no doubt. Sweeney made a reach for a player who was projected to go in the 2nd round over two highly touted prospects and that s not even mentioning Chabot and Boeser.

The Bruins fan-base is very well educated, and were all like who??? But I really don't think anyone is writing him off, more so everyone is knowledgeable enough to know that Sweeney left some very highly regarded prospects on the board, who are flourishing in the NHL today when he took Zach. They new it then and to see those guys producing big time and to see Zach still progress in providence, well their displeasure is understandable but with that said, I think everyone is rooting for Zach to succeed but are still amazed that Sweeney made a big time reach that hasn't panned out as of yet.

 

[Mainehockey33]

He’s definitely the type of player I think the Bruins are missing right now just because he’ll go to the front of the net. I hope to see him get a chance this year, the Krejci line would look good with a winger that hangs out around the net.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

edit: triple post

Senyshyn is that good that when i post in his thread, 3 posts happen! That's 3 more posts than Acciari has goals this year…

And now the 1st post doesn't show anymore! Conspiracy by the Bruins!

What I wrote was:

You have to beleive that at some point, the Bruins will give a chance to Senyshyn just to justify/save face for that highly controversy pick in 2015. He is everything the Bruins need right now: skilled, size, fast, goalscorer.

But no. They keep rolling with their plethora of no hands grinders...

 

[UncleRico]

He’s definitely the type of player I think the Bruins are missing right now just because he’ll go to the front of the net. I hope to see him get a chance this year, the Krejci line would look good with a winger that hangs out around the net.

I’m a Senyshyn guy, think he will be a solid player, but what’s best for him is to stay in the AHL this year. If anything I want to see him get more opportunity on his current team. He has been in a bottom 6 role with very limited power play time for the vast majority of the season it sounds like.

With that said if he gets put in a top 6 role, I wouldn’t mind seeing him called up late in the season if there’s an injury, but would much rather have him in the AHL the full year and see what he can do next summer/ fall to try and make the team.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

He’s definitely the type of player I think the Bruins are missing right now just because he’ll go to the front of the net. I hope to see him get a chance this year, the Krejci line would look good with a winger that hangs out around the net.

I feel the Bruins have a plan with Zach and their holding too it. Because your right he looks like he'll be a perfect fit for the Krejci line although it'd be fun too watch Krejci trying to keep up with those two speedster


I'm guessing Senyshyn plays half a season down in Providence and then gets a chance, but maybe sooner if the Bruins continue too struggle offensively. like maybe losing their next two too divisional rivals Tampa and Toronto,

 

[Mainehockey33]

I’m a Senyshyn guy, think he will be a solid player, but what’s best for him is to stay in the AHL this year. If anything I want to see him get more opportunity on his current team. He has been in a bottom 6 role with very limited power play time for the vast majority of the season it sounds like.

With that said if he gets put in a top 6 role, I wouldn’t mind seeing him called up late in the season if there’s an injury, but would much rather have him in the AHL the full year and see what he can do next summer/ fall to try and make the team.

I feel the Bruins have a plan with Zach and their holding too it. Because your right he looks like he'll be a perfect fit for the Krejci line although it'd be fun too watch Krejci trying to keep up with those two speedster


I'm guessing Senyshyn plays half a season down in Providence and then gets a chance, but maybe sooner if the Bruins continue too struggle offensively. like maybe losing their next two too divisional rivals Tampa and Toronto,

At this point I just want to see him for my own entertainment. I know he’s probably not ready, but I’m sick of watching the players they keep throwing on the ice. It’s not like they haven’t thrown players into the lineup before they were ready before like JFK, Donato and Bjork. At least Senyshyn has size, speed and goes to the net.

 

[JRull86]

It really is too bad that Senyshyn is already a bust, had his fate been determined already and it’s just time to give up and cut him loose. He’s playing some good hockey this year.

I know right, damn shame.

Thanks for the videos BTW (assuming that's your twitter)

 

[UncleRico]

At this point I just want to see him for my own entertainment. I know he’s probably not ready, but I’m sick of watching the players they keep throwing on the ice. It’s not like they haven’t thrown players into the lineup before they were ready before like JFK, Donato and Bjork. At least Senyshyn has size, speed and goes to the net.

The unfortunate thing is, especially with bjork and donato to a lesser degree, they need to be put in a position to succeed as rookies. The organization has done them no favors at all pairing them with centers like backes, Wagner, Nordstrom, kuraly, etc.

I would love to see the bruins acquire staal or Marcus Johansson and put one of them in between bjork and donato.

Bjork-Staal-donato
Bjork-Johansson-donato

Or move bjork to the 2nd line and have donato and heinen be the two wings.

I honestly think a significant portion of bjorks lack of production has been the garbage excuses of 3rd line quality centers the bruins have put out there.

 

[Dr Hook]

Its really too bad but no fault of his own that Sweeney decided to go for a major reach with Barzal and Conner still on the board.

He may never live that down for some fans, but I tell you, if he ultimately develops into a two-way 50 point winger for us with size, speed, and skill, then Sweeney knocked it out of the park regardless of who else he could have taken in that spot.

 

[Dr Hook]

I honestly think a significant portion of bjorks lack of production has been the garbage excuses of 3rd line quality centers the bruins have put out there.

That's a true statement in my book.

 

[BruinsNetwork]

I know right, damn shame.

Thanks for the videos BTW (assuming that's your twitter)

Yes, sir. Thanks for sharing and posting. That’s what I do it for, the fans!

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

He may never live that down for some fans, but I tell you, if he ultimately develops into a two-way 50 point winger for us with size, speed, and skill, then Sweeney knocked it out of the park regardless of who else he could have taken in that spot.

Thank you! Senyshyn's fate and Sweeney's drafting that year are NOT settled. The kid is 21 years old, for crissakes. Yes, Barzal has done quite well with the Islanders but that doesn't mean he would do the same here.

 

[TCB]

He may never live that down for some fans, but I tell you, if he ultimately develops into a two-way 50 point winger for us with size, speed, and skill, then Sweeney knocked it out of the park regardless of who else he could have taken in that spot.

Sure that's a good NHL career no doubt but if that happens, I sure wouldn't say Sweeney knocked it out of the park. More like he hit a double which would of been an inside the park home-run but he tripped over the bag at second.

I mean Senyshyn technically could have fallen to into the second round where the Bruins had 3 more picks and may have gotten him there, where he was projected by most too go.

If he'd Taken one of Connor,Barzal, Chabot or Boeser and Sweeney would have already hit a Grand Slam.

 

[ON3M4N]

Sure that's a good NHL career no doubt but if that happens, I sure wouldn't say Sweeney knocked it out of the park. More like he hit a double which would of been an inside the park home-run but he tripped over the bag at second.

I mean Senyshyn technically could have fallen to into the second round where the Bruins had 3 more picks and may have gotten him there, where he was projected by most too go.

If he'd Taken one of Connor,Barzal, Chabot or Boeser and Sweeney would have already hit a Grand Slam.

Couldn't you use that logic with every player in every round....ever? IIRC there were rumors that a few teams in the 1st round were considering taking Senyshyn and that's why Sweeney took him when he did.

 

[Dr Hook]

Couldn't you use that logic with every player in every round....ever? IIRC there were rumors that a few teams in the 1st round were considering taking Senyshyn and that's why Sweeney took him when he did.

That is what I heard at the time also, and I think Dom mentioned recently that Senyshyn had climbed into the first round on several teams' draft lists. If he grows into a 1st/2nd line winger as a mid-first rounder, that is a success by any draft standard regardless of who is taken around him.

 

[TCB]

Couldn't you use that logic with every player in every round....ever? IIRC there were rumors that a few teams in the 1st round were considering taking Senyshyn and that's why Sweeney took him when he did.

That reasoning is ridiculous. I think Sweeney and Company just thought really high of Zach and decided to take him, I mean how many rumors were out there that teams were going to take Barzal,Connor,Chabot and Boeser in the 1st rnd? More than Zach that's for sure, and who would of, more than likely fallen into the second round of those guys? Where the Bruins had 3 more picks. Senyshyn, that's who.



No good GM is going to show his true hand in such a deep draft. Sure there were rumblings out-there that came out after the draft that there were teams interested in him late in the first round but I think it was more of posturing once Barzal and Connor kept falling down.

A good GM is going to use whatever resources he has to try and pull the wool over the eyes of their competitors to truly get the player they covet. .....Hook,Line and Sinker.

 

[BruinsNetwork]

Looks like Senyshyn finally is getting some powerplay time.

He is, they like him as the net-front guy— he’s scored a lot of goals there in the OHL.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

At this point I just want to see him for my own entertainment. I know he’s probably not ready, but I’m sick of watching the players they keep throwing on the ice. It’s not like they haven’t thrown players into the lineup before they were ready before like JFK, Donato and Bjork. At least Senyshyn has size, speed and goes to the net.

No Doubt and certain players tend to raise their game when they play with more elite players.So why not give him a chance, especially with what the Bruins have been throwing out-there,with no production

 

[Over the volcano]

He is, they like him as the net-front guy— he’s scored a lot of goals there in the OHL.

A net front guy with blazing speed sounds alright by me.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

That reasoning is ridiculous. I think Sweeney and Company just thought really high of Zach and decided to take him, I mean how many rumors were out there that teams were going to take Barzal,Connor,Chabot and Boeser in the 1st rnd? More than Zach that's for sure, and who would of, more than likely fallen into the second round of those guys? Where the Bruins had 3 more picks. Senyshyn, that's who.



No good GM is going to show his true hand in such a deep draft. Sure there were rumblings out-there that came out after the draft that there were teams interested in him late in the first round but I think it was more of posturing once Barzal and Connor kept falling down.

A good GM is going to use whatever resources he has to try and pull the wool over the eyes of their competitors to truly get the player they covet. .....Hook,Line and Sinker.

Exactly. If Sweeney made such rash decision to take Senyshyn because there were rumors other teams wanted him, when the likes of Barzal and Connor were still on the Board he deserves his walking papers.

More than likely Seeeney targeted him with that pick and took him.

 

[ON3M4N]

That reasoning is ridiculous. I think Sweeney and Company just thought really high of Zach and decided to take him, I mean how many rumors were out there that teams were going to take Barzal,Connor,Chabot and Boeser in the 1st rnd? More than Zach that's for sure, and who would of, more than likely fallen into the second round of those guys? Where the Bruins had 3 more picks. Senyshyn, that's who.



No good GM is going to show his true hand in such a deep draft. Sure there were rumblings out-there that came out after the draft that there were teams interested in him late in the first round but I think it was more of posturing once Barzal and Connor kept falling down.

A good GM is going to use whatever resources he has to try and pull the wool over the eyes of their competitors to truly get the player they covet. .....Hook,Line and Sinker.

I mean if the group had a 1st round grade on him (no idea if they did), really like him and didn't feel like he'd be there in the 2nd, I don't know how that reasoning is ridiculous. Its easy to sit here 3 years later as the dust settles and guys start to show what they are capable of, but on draft day when EVERY prospect (outside of the Crosby, Ovie, Malkin & McDavid of the world) is an unknown, you have to go with all the intel you have from your scouts/assistants and make a decision. That's why the draft is a complete crap shoot most of the time.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Here's what happened with the 3 picks:

1. Zboril -- One of the 3 picks had to be a defenseman and they thought he was the best one and he was the consensus best-defenseman-available. They tried to move up to get Hanifin or Werenski but they couldn't.
2. Debrusk - they wanted a left winger and it was between him and Conner. In hindsight there's no wrong pick but you can see why they loved Debrusk, we all love Debrusk.
3. Senyshyn -- they didn't want another left winger so you look around. I believe they thought Barzal would be a 10-15 goal, 50 assist guy, something like a better version of Spooner. He couldn't put the puck in the net in junior before the draft. And maybe they didn't like something else about him (btw, he's on pace for 10 goals, 60 assists this year) . They would have also looked at Erikson Ek and White but must have decided they wouldn't be good top-six centers in the NHL. So then they looked at RW, which is a position of need in the organization. Svechnikov hasn't panned out and there's the Russian factor. Merkley is still a wild card. Both are also left-shooting right wings. At the same time they fell in love with Senyshyn's upside as a 6-3 scoring winger who could absolutely fly. I'd argue the guy they missed was Brock Boeser who is also a right shot, right wing and would look absolutely deadly with Krejci right now but he was in the USHL and I guess they just didn't see it.

All that said, if you look at Chris Kreider's trajectory, it's similar to Senyshyn. It took him 5 years.

 

[TCB]

I mean if the group had a 1st round grade on him (no idea if they did), really like him and didn't feel like he'd be there in the 2nd, I don't know how that reasoning is ridiculous. Its easy to sit here 3 years later as the dust settles and guys start to show what they are capable of, but on draft day when EVERY prospect (outside of the Crosby, Ovie, Malkin & McDavid of the world) is an unknown, you have to go with all the intel you have from your scouts/assistants and make a decision. That's why the draft is a complete crap shoot most of the time.

Couldn't you use that logic with every player in every round....ever? IIRC there were rumors that a few teams in the 1st round were considering taking Senyshyn and that's why Sweeney took him when he did.

Never said them taking him in the first, because they graded him there was ridiculous but that is the reason"I said they more than likely took him there". What I said was ridiculous was your post saying that there were rumors that a few teams in the 1st round were considering taking Senyshyn and that's why Sweeney took him when he did

 

[BB88]

I mean if the group had a 1st round grade on him (no idea if they did), really like him and didn't feel like he'd be there in the 2nd, I don't know how that reasoning is ridiculous. Its easy to sit here 3 years later as the dust settles and guys start to show what they are capable of, but on draft day when EVERY prospect (outside of the Crosby, Ovie, Malkin & McDavid of the world) is an unknown, you have to go with all the intel you have from your scouts/assistants and make a decision. That's why the draft is a complete crap shoot most of the time.

You can't hit on every pick, that's okay.

But this draft was hyped to be the best since 2013 and they passed a guy who was ranked in the top 10 for a guy who was ranked early 2nd. Basically 1 round reach.

This isn't something easy to say after. They had a major problem developing and still have.

It's not Senys fault though.