Player Discussion Zach Parise

[Victorious Secret]

Parise is a tough guy. He should be fine. It can't be that serious right?

It can be very serious.

 

[GinoLucia2217]

It can be very serious.

Yeah it was semi sarcasm but also seriousness because if I recall correctly which I probably am not Parise hasn't had a concussion history which helps a little bit.

 

[Avder]

Crap.

 

[Laredo]

I was wondering if it may have been that stick he took in the Rangers game.

I think he took another big hit after that as well, maybe against Boston?

Did he get the stitches from that stick against the Rangers, I can't remember haha. I doubt it was from that though.

IF anything I would think it was a hit from Boston, surely there's video out there but I don't remember Parise taking any huge hits from what I can remember.

 

[Bruce Granville]

 

[Victorious Secret]

Yeah it was semi sarcasm but also seriousness because if I recall correctly which I probably am not Parise hasn't had a concussion history which helps a little bit.

While history matters a bit, the first can be just as bad as the eighth.

 

[mtxed]

heard he's back on Thurs?

 

[Generic User]

Did he get the stitches from that stick against the Rangers, I can't remember haha. I doubt it was from that though.

IF anything I would think it was a hit from Boston, surely there's video out there but I don't remember Parise taking any huge hits from what I can remember.

Most are assuming it's from the stick he took (which also required stitches, yes). Don't recall any big hits against Boston.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

At the risk of stating the obvious...

Mr. Parise has a LOT of hard miles on him and he is no longer a kid. As time goes on, his recovery time will grow and grow with every injury.

He is not back today. Any word when he will be?

 

[Dee Oh Cee]

Probably tomorrow. Doesn't matter what age you are for concussions.

 

[BigT2002]

At the risk of stating the obvious...

Mr. Parise has a LOT of hard miles on him and he is no longer a kid. As time goes on, his recovery time will grow and grow with every injury.

He is not back today. Any word when he will be?

What really has me worried right now is what Russo wrote about on Sunday: the contracts can come back and bite the team in the ass. There is a penalty if the contracts that were top heavy to allow for lower cap hits at the end and those players retire before those contracts are over.

Concussions are no joke. Ask Lindros

 

[ThatGuy22]

What really has me worried right now is what Russo wrote about on Sunday: the contracts can come back and bite the team in the ass. There is a penalty if the contracts that were top heavy to allow for lower cap hits at the end and those players retire before those contracts are over.

Concussions are no joke. Ask Lindros

Parise will play until he wants to retire, then ride out his contract on LTIR like Pronger. Whether it be Phantom or real injury.

 

[BigT2002]

Parise will play until he wants to retire, then ride out his contract on LTIR like Pronger. Whether it be Phantom or real injury.

However, is that something the league will allow to happen? Serious question as I do not know. I thought the new CBA nipped that so it could no longer happen.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I don't see an issue with Parise or Suter playing in their late 30's. Only issue is that they would only be taking home $1 million in real dollars for the last 3 years, but when you've already made what they are going to make, I don't think it's that big of an issue.

 

[BigT2002]

I don't see an issue with Parise or Suter playing in their late 30's. Only issue is that they would only be taking home $1 million in real dollars for the last 3 years, but when you've already made what they are going to make, I don't think it's that big of an issue.

Not anything about what they would make, it is the caphit that the team will be required to take because of it:

Let’s say one retired in 2020: The team would be charged a $3.938 million salary cap penalty in each of the next five seasons. Let’s say the other retired in 2021: The Wild would be charged a $5.038 million cap penalty in each of the next four seasons. It gets much higher in 2022-25.

Source: http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/282831691.html

Its easy to predict that Suter will likely play until he is 40 (10 more seasons)

Parise....not so much. Forwards don't have that type of shelf life as they did back in the early 90's. Jagr is the only one in his 40's playing right now IIRC. Parise contract will take him to about the same age.

 

[MuckOG]

The Wild are gambling that the salary cap will have increased to such a level by 2020 that even a ~$4 million hit won't make much of a dent if one or both of them does decide to hang it up around then.

 

[Jarick]

I'd rather have to deal with cap recapture in 10 years than be a forgettable team missing the playoffs again.

Also, the NHL rescinded on the 1st round draft pick penalty from New Jersey and has looked the other way for Pronger's "retirement", so I'm not confident the Wild would have any consequences at all. Plus, there's going to be another CBA by then.

 

[ThatGuy22]

However, is that something the league will allow to happen? Serious question as I do not know. I thought the new CBA nipped that so it could no longer happen.

If its a legitimate injury(concussion, knees are shot, etc) they really don't have much of a choice. LTIR still exists.

If its a fudged injury, they could probably punish the Wild for trying it.

But I'm willing to bet next CBA cooler heads will prevail and cap recapture will be eliminated.

 

[nickschultzfan]

As long as Parise doesn't have injury issues, he can be a 3rd liner for a long-time. And his salary could easily be in the range of top-9 players then.

 

[ThatGuy22]

As long as Parise doesn't have injury issues, he can be a 3rd liner for a long-time. And his salary could easily be in the range of top-9 players then.

I could easily see him having a Mark Rechi like end of career.

 

[BigT2002]

The Wild are gambling that the salary cap will have increased to such a level by 2020 that even a ~$4 million hit won't make much of a dent if one or both of them does decide to hang it up around then.

But that isn't factoring in inflation of the contracts based on that though either. You have Patrick Kane making more than Sidney Crosby simply because of when the contracts were signed. Who knows what the contract could reach by 2020. $5M now could be like having a backup goalie making $3M of your caphit.

I could easily see him having a Mark Rechi like end of career.

I would like to think he certainly could. At some point his intensity is going to fade though.

 

[melinko]

I'd rather have to deal with cap recapture in 10 years than be a forgettable team missing the playoffs again.

Also, the NHL rescinded on the 1st round draft pick penalty from New Jersey and has looked the other way for Pronger's "retirement", so I'm not confident the Wild would have any consequences at all. Plus, there's going to be another CBA by then.

Everyone forgets we still have another lockout between now and when they will likely retire .

 

[countrygentleman]

Why is there not more talk about Zach Parise?? Guy is quietly on a point per game pace with 13 g 13 a = 26 in 26 games.

 

[Wild11MN]

Why is there not more talk about Zach Parise?? Guy is quietly on a point per game pace with 13 g 13 a = 26 in 26 games.

Because we're too busy complaining about the rest of the team underachieving.

Zach's been great though, as usual.

 

[gphr513]

I think it's just because we always see a high level of effort/play from him, so we might take it for granted. But yeah, he has been great this year.