Confirmed Signing with Link: [WSH] Tom Wilson (6 years, 5.17M AAV)

[third man in]

Scores 40/50? Are you actually implying that he’s going to score 40/50 points at simply even strength? That would make him one of the better players in the league and you know what Tom Wilson isn’t? One of the better players in the league...

oh yeah how could Tom ever come up with 6 more even strength points over last year. Oh right maybe if he spends the extra 1/3 of the season on the top line he might be able to pull it off.

I feel like people are just talking out of their asses around here.

 

[gwh]

Congrats when the Minnesota franchise finally sniffs anything close to a Cup

Haha. At least our GM didn't sign Bickell this summer.

 

[Devil Dancer]

Vrana RFA 2019 summer. You can't afford him, so that is an incoming trade. Not following your own teams contracts not very good start for discussions though... Just saying.

Also read the other 47 pages of this thread to check what the rest of the board thinks about your gm... :-D We ll see next summer in Vrana trade thread.

Uh huh.

Did you miss the magic GMBM just pulled off with Orpik's cap hit? Or last summer when he correctly cut ties with Williams and Mojo?

The Caps have been very successful managing their cap since GMBM took over, despite some overpayments like Orpik. So I'm not worried about Vrana's bridge deal .

 

[Djp]

DANTHEMAN1967 said: ↑

He was an RFA who didn't even have arbitration rights, he had no leverage.
The option was to tell him that you're getting $10 million over three years sign here.​

What is inaccurate?
He was an RFA who didn't have any abitration rights, if he wanted to play in the NHL this year it could only be with Capitals.
His only recourse, if he didn't like the offer the Capitals made, would be to hold out and not show up at training camp.
He was over paid and that's on MacLellan.

Arbitration is eligible for players with 4 seasons under their belt....he has 5. He had ELC then 2 yr bridge.

Players who come from Europe or college arbitration is based on age. A graduating college player signs a 2 yr ELC can file arbitration

If he was coming of an ELC he wouldn’t.

Team can only file for arbitration once in this 3 yr period in team control.

If a player files arbitration it removes him from getting any sort of offer sheets by other teams.

 

[God King Fudge]

Luckily you'll get to see plenty of both of them next year

Lol. Ok? Should I feel threatened or? Someone help me out here.

 

[Its a Trap]

oh yeah how could Tom ever come up with 6 more even strength points over last year. Oh right maybe if he spends the extra 1/3 of the season on the top line he might be able to pull it off.

I feel like people are just talking out of their asses around here.

Well considering he's never come close to putting up such points before and had a 4% bump in his shooting percentage while posting career highs across the board, gee yea, why should I think such a player would improve further when his shooting percentage is going to go down? And what part of the season exactly are you arguing about him not playing on the top line? The final few months were he put up barely any points and struggled to reach that 35 mark.

Talking out of their asses indeed, but it's not me that is, that's for certain.

 

[Shrimper]

Uh huh.

Did you miss the magic GMBM just pulled off with Orpik's cap hit? Or last summer when he correctly cut ties with Williams and Mojo?

The Caps have been very successful managing their cap since GMBM took over, despite some overpayments like Orpik. So I'm not worried about Vrana's bridge deal .

I mean, they had to lose Johansson due to cap space issues a season or two ago. So you can't exactly say he is that succesful. And he would never have had to fix Orpik's cap hit if he had never signed him to such a bad deal in the first place.

 

[strictlyrandy]

All these other players are completely free to play the way Wilson does and contribute as much to their teams

When the Tom Wilson contract is so bad you feel the need to defend it by quoting a post that was talking about wanting a raise at work.

 

[SkinsFan09]

Haha. At least our GM didn't sign Bickell this summer.

He didn't build a contending roster either.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Vrana RFA 2019 summer. You can't afford him, so that is an incoming trade. Not following your own teams contracts not very good start for discussions though... Just saying.

Also read the other 47 pages of this thread to check what the rest of the board thinks about your gm... :-D We ll see next summer in Vrana trade thread.

yeah this thread is really weird. I get the feeling some of these folks saying theyre Capitals fans are maybe just fans of a few of the players...

one guy claims Wilson never plays with Backstrom, another doesnt know any of the teams contracts... is this reality?

 

[alphabetical]

oh yeah how could Tom ever come up with 6 more even strength points over last year. Oh right maybe if he spends the extra 1/3 of the season on the top line he might be able to pull it off.

I feel like people are just talking out of their asses around here.

this is why the thread is 50 f***ing pages. there's too much bias against wilson, as they've only ever seen the hits that the DOPS shows, and they thus believe him to be a monster. he's not a bottom six forward by even strength production metrics, but that matters less than people's opinions of him.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Arbitration is eligible for players with 4 seasons under their belt....he has 5. He had ELC then 2 yr bridge.

Players who come from Europe or college arbitration is based on age. A graduating college player signs a 2 yr ELC can file arbitration

If he was coming of an ELC he wouldn’t.

Team can only file for arbitration once in this 3 yr period in team control.

If a player files arbitration it removes him from getting any sort of offer sheets by other teams.

He had arbitration rights but chose not to use them prior to the deadline, presumably to allow the possibility of an offer sheet.
This was back on July 5th I believe.
After July 5th he had no arbitration rights, his only recourse, beyond an offer sheet, was to either sign what the Capital's offered him or withold his services come training camp.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Wilson has sooooo much mental real estate on you guys.....wow....

I think both sides have made their points. You either believe in the player or you’re afraid too.

 

[Roughing]

Awesome deal. Caps fans are really enjoying all the hater tears. Thanks!

 

[Mikeaveli]

Caps fans trying to convince themselves this isn't awful

 

[Billdo]

Uh huh.

Did you miss the magic GMBM just pulled off with Orpik's cap hit? Or last summer when he correctly cut ties with Williams and Mojo?

The Caps have been very successful managing their cap since GMBM took over, despite some overpayments like Orpik. So I'm not worried about Vrana's bridge deal .

Not for nothing but nobody could've predicted the concussions Mojo had.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Awesome deal. Caps fans are really enjoying all the hater tears. Thanks!

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Wilson has sooooo much mental real estate on you guys.....wow....

I think both sides have made their points. You either believe in the player or you’re afraid too.

I like the false dichotomy. "You're on my side or you're scared and stuff." Okay there.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Caps fans trying to convince themselves this isn't awful

Fans of other teams trying to convince themselves Tom Wilson doesn't have prime real estate in all their brains.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

48 pages for Tommy Tom Tom.

 

[Its a Trap]

Fans of other teams trying to convince themselves Tom Wilson doesn't have prime real estate in all their brains.

Real estate in regards to what? That everyone thinks he’s a dirty and now hilariously overpaid player? If that’s what you’re saying you’re totally correct! If you’re implying fans are scared of him, well I don’t really know what to tell you because you’ve all been so brain washed to just repeat this silly line over and over again.

 

[General Disarray]

After next season when they realize this deal was a mistake, I wonder if the Oilers and Caps could workout a trade between Wilson and Lucic. Bad contract for bad contract.

 

[Roughing]

Not for nothing but nobody could've predicted the concussions Mojo had.

MoJo sucked in DC. We all knew.

 

[Roughing]

Caps fans trying to convince themselves this isn't awful

What's that? I couldn't hear you over the Stanley Cup.

 

[Devil Dancer]

Not for nothing but nobody could've predicted the concussions Mojo had.

Yeah, that's not really what I'm talking about. I like Mojo a lot and I hope he's successful for you guys moving forward. But the Caps had to move salary out last summery to re-sign Kuzy and Oshie, and GMBM made the right call in letting Williams walk and trading Mojo. That's all I'm saying. Mojo could have put up 60 points for you guys and it still would have been the right move because it allowed the Caps to keep the (obviously successful) roster they iced in 17-18. He's done a really good job over the last few years getting rid of contracts when necessary.