Confirmed Signing with Link: [WSH] Carl Hagelin signs extension (4 years, $2.75M AAV)

[Stasis]

Good for Hags, and with cap projection that hit percentage isn't an over payment for what he brings beyond the point totals.

I'm also convinced he can hit 10/20 again or similar in a full season with the Caps, and he's a pure energy guy who gives his all. He's also (or at least he was with us) a non-stop chatter and encouragement cheerleader from the bench. He can amp guys up at the right times.

I'd love him at that price if we were remotely close to competing. The kind of ideal depth pieces that you really want in the post-season. We'll see if he still has his motor churning as hard in 3-4 seasons but it should be a dirty cheap hit by then or an easy buyout/bury if needed. I doubt it though, I think he can do the 4 years just fine.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Seems really reasonable at first glance, but he is already 31. That term might hurt the Capitals.

 

[max21]

I love it for the sole fact of salty Penguins fans who wanted a reunion

 

[serp]

4 years i don't know about that but the AAV is lower so thatswhy its 4 and not 2 or 3 years

 

[Sam Spade]

 

[Pens x]

No offense, but appear to be a Kings fan. The Kings, the style of hockey they play, had no business getting Carl Hagelin. He was useless in their system. Completely the opposite for the Capitals. He plugged straight in. He played on the 2nd 3rd and 4th lines. He played 4 on 4 and played 1st pk. He had 11pts after the trade deadline.

He also only scored 1 point in the playoffs, but let’s focus only on those 20 games where he actually played decently and ignore the rest.

 

[Tripod]

for what he brings away from the puck and in the playoffs, yes

His last 3 playoffs combined he has 6 points in 31 games.

No one should take away those great playoff years, but they are 4 years ago now.

 

[Pens x]

I love it for the sole fact of salty Penguins fans who wanted a reunion

I can assure you any objective Pens’ fan is relieved Rutherford didn’t sign him. Hagelin was largely useless this past season. I don’t want to sign a player this side of 30 that relies on speed so much to a 4 year deal.

 

[GoCaps2004]

He also only scored 1 point in the playoffs, but let’s focus only on those 20 games where he actually played decently and ignore the rest.

ok so including the playoff games, because we aren't ignoring anything here, he had 12 points in 27 games. Which is a 35 point pace.

 

[tradenashnow]

Awful contract. He's worth 1.5 for the 4th line at most.

 

[CanadienShark]

Little long, but that cap hit is quite fair. Great 3rd liner.

 

[max21]

I can assure you any objective Pens’ fan is relieved Rutherford didn’t sign him. Hagelin was largely useless this past season. I don’t want to sign a player this side of 30 that relies on speed so much to a 4 year deal.

I’m more or less teasing, I did see a few penguins fans post about getting him back. I wasn’t over the top impressed with Hagelin but he seemed to fit well with the Capitals and his PK prowess is there. I was hoping for more of him in the playoffs but it seemed Ovechkin and Bäckström were the only ones that showed up, overall I don’t think it’s a bad contract tho

 

[MMC]

Some of the people in this thread are going to in be for a shock on July 1st

 

[mouser]

Once again another GM breaking the cardinal rule of don’t sign a bottom 6 forward for 4+ years.

2 years, 3 years tops for your bottom 6 guys.

 

[The Madrigal]

Terrible contract, especially for a team with supposed cap issues. 2.75 aav isn't that bad but I think it's a little bit high. Either way four years for a 31 year old declining bottom 6 F isn't smart at all.

 

[Kolzilla]

Wow, that's a great contract! GMBM is wheeling and dealing

 

[txpd]

He also only scored 1 point in the playoffs, but let’s focus only on those 20 games where he actually played decently and ignore the rest.

Yea, well....Another check and you find that Connolly and Burakovsky had 2 and Vrana had 0.

 

[txpd]

Terrible contract, especially for a team with supposed cap issues. 2.75 aav isn't that bad but I think it's a little bit high. Either way four years for a 31 year old declining bottom 6 F isn't smart at all.

I don't think you are seeing this clearly. MacLellan is looking for a team that can win the cup next season. It has to fit under the cap. He doesn't care about years 3 and 4 on that contract anymore than he cared about years 4 and 5 on Orpik or years 6 and 7 on Niskanen's contract. He didn't sign Oshie to an 8 year contract because he was counting on years 7 and 8.

He is willing to give term to keep the aav under his cap projections. Its not a terrible contract. They have the player for the next season.

 

[txpd]

Once again another GM breaking the cardinal rule of don’t sign a bottom 6 forward for 4+ years.

2 years, 3 years tops for your bottom 6 guys.

Question. Which? A better player for this season with too much term or a lesser player on less term? Do you want to win or....?

 

[The Madrigal]

I don't think you are seeing this clearly. MacLellan is looking for a team that can win the cup next season. It has to fit under the cap. He doesn't care about years 3 and 4 on that contract anymore than he cared about years 4 and 5 on Orpik or years 6 and 7 on Niskanen's contract. He didn't sign Oshie to an 8 year contract because he was counting on years 7 and 8.

He is willing to give term to keep the aav under his cap projections. Its not a terrible contract. They have the player for the next season.

Your team is investing four years at nearly 3 million per year for a 31 year old 10 goal/25 point bottom 6 winger. I would have to respectfully disagree and say you are the one not seeing this clearly.

 

[txpd]

Your team is investing four years at nearly 3 million per year for a 31 year old 10 goal/25 point bottom 6 winger. I would have to respectfully disagree and say you are the one not seeing this clearly.

Lets try this again. If you are saying that one year of Hagelin at 2.75m is a mistake, that is your opinion and I wont argue with you. But you start with the 4 years thing. I have given you a fairly lenthy track record that this general manage has. He has 2 presidents trophy, a cup, and a division championship with this style of cap management.

He doesn't care about years 3 and 4. You are saying he is stuck with them and I have pointed out that he has not been so far. If you don't want to accept that, its your business.

 

[Shrimper]

Good hit, bad length.

 

[mouser]

Question. Which? A better player for this season with too much term or a lesser player on less term? Do you want to win or....?

Usually teams find these bottom 6 guys on the longer contracts are the guys they're trying to upgrade before the contract has run its course.

 

[Kolzilla]

Your team is investing four years at nearly 3 million per year for a 31 year old 10 goal/25 point bottom 6 winger. I would have to respectfully disagree and say you are the one not seeing this clearly.

Maybe if our entire 4th was getting paid over 7 mil a year it's a problem...as of now a fourth line of hagelin, dowd, and Stephenson/Boyd is gonna be under 4.5 mil total...I don't see the issue.

Yeah, over 3 years can be an issue, but his capnhit is such that he can be bought out, buried, or traded with relative ease.

Also factor in that Hags is solid on the 3rd line and this is a pretty solid deal IMO.

 

[crab]

Don’t like it as a Caps fan. He was invisible in the playoffs.