Prospect Info: With the #86 pick, the Wild select (C) Alexander Khovanov (QMJHL, Moncton Wildcats)

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  1. vorky @vorkywh24

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    The KHL SPC does not include a release-clause. Never.
     
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    Guessing, you say: "NHL club decides to take a player under KHL contract & per se his KHL contract is voided & the player is coming to NHL the other day."

    That is exactly how it does not work.

    I just guess you say it, perhaps you say something different & I misunderstood you.
     
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    Shepard didn’t pan out as an NHL player.

    Granlund didn’t pan out as an NHL center.

    We haven’t been able to snag a Brayden Point type in the later rounds.

    We haven’t been bad enough to pick at the top of the draft.
     
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    We also apparently pissed off Haula, which is why he didn't want to sign back here. But hey! We got Staal!
     
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    There is zero evidence Haula has any hard feelings. He had a chance to be a top 6 Center in Vegas, and took it.
     
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    If Ak Bars is pushing 2 years, i'd hope the Wild tell them to pound sand. Force Ak Bars to be reasonable with a one year loan, the KHL to blow up the agreement (verrrry risky given their new restrictive salary cap) or Khovanov to wait until the AHL starts up.
     
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    He was an expansion and cap casualty.
     
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    I am not sure you know the KHL rules. In case you do not know them, Khovanov is 20 years old, his salary would not be counted toward the salary cap in the KHL. In that regards, Ak Bars is risking nothing.
     
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    The Wild didn't take a player under a KHL contract. They drafted a player from the CHL, signed him to an NHL contract, when he had no other contact at all.

    The NHL and KHL have an agreement to honor each other's contracts. The KHL knows he's under a NHL contract, so they know the only way he can sign in the KHL and play in the KHL is with the permission of the Minnesota Wild.

    If the Wild say he needs to be in the NHL, that's where he'll be, because the KHL respects the contract he already has with the NHL.
     
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    I'm not talking about Khovanov's salary.

    I'm saying the Wild play hardball and insist on only a 1 year loan. That leads to three possible outcomes.
    1) Ak Bars relents to 1 year loan, gets the player for one year, Khovanov gets to start in September. Everyone wins.
    2)Ak Bars doesn't relent. Khovanov doesn't get to play in the KHL, and has to wait for when the AHL starts up to play. Everyone loses, but the Wild lose a little less.

    OR

    3) The KHL breaks the agreement respecting contracts, and allows Ak Bars to sign Khovanov anyway. The KHL is having a hard cap this year for the first time I believe. Something like 14 million US. My understanding, is that is pretty restrictive for some of the top teams. If the KHL doesn't respect Khovanov's NHL contract, NHL teams can stop respecting KHL contracts. That wouldn't likely play out in the KHLs favor long term, due to differences in economics between the KHL and NHL (during normal times). Khovanov and Ak Bars win, the Wild and long term the KHL loses.
     
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    @ThatGuy22

    Agree that 1) & 2) are possible scenarios. But 3) is impossible per se.

    @TaLoN

    Agree with your 1st & 2nd paragraph. Regarding the 3rd, I can not agree, it does not work like that. If the Wild, Ak Bars & Khovanov agree that he can sign a two-year contract with Ak Bars, it means the Wild needs to honour his KHL contract.

    I do not say about the situation when the Wild, Ak Bars & Khovanov do not agree to terms.
     
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    3 is not impossible. In America, the KHL and NHL agreement is always termed as a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in reports. There are legal distinctions between an MOU, Contract or Agreement. Specifically, an MOU is generally not enforceable by law. I cant say for a fact, but it's entirely likely either side can pull out of the MOU.

    It may be unlikely (as it wouldn't serve the KHLs best interests), but it's not impossible.
     
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    i would have wanted khovanov to spend a season in iowa but is this a publicity stunt to get on the wild's roster next season?
     
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    Both leagues are comfortable with the MOU. It is better than nothing.
     
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    I understand players decision to eager to get a spot anywhere in any good league because of the rona. Im not to worried considering he's already under contract so w.e he does will be worked out and either way he gets his development
     
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    iowa might not have a season.
     
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    Apparently this conversation is moot anyway...

    Wild notes: Carson Soucy is ready to go, latest Kirill...
    1yr deal or none.
     
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    Q&A: Wild GM Bill Guerin on Kaprizov, goaltending, playing...
     
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    According to Russo Wild ave officially signed off on Khovanov signing in the KHL for 1 year.
     
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    Only mildly disappointing. Khovanov was a longshot to make the team next year, and with the AHL iffy next year, the KHL is as good an option as any. Am i right in saying that Khovanov can not sign another contract to extend his KHL stay w/o the Wild's OK?
     
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    There were too many "cap casualties" that year. I hope BG can manage the cap and Seattle draft better than Fletch did.
     
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    Yes. He is under contract with the Wild. This is a loan, despite Russo's earlier reporting that Khovanov could uni-laterally do it.
     
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    I think this is good for his development. I’d have liked to see him join a very good Iowa team but this is a solid alternative. I don’t know what another year dominating the Q would have done for him. Hopefully he gets a fair shake in Kazan and they don’t bury him because he is a NHL “loan”
     
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    Please go to kaprizovs team if possible khovy
     
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    Doesn't matter if he does, he's not likely to play on the same line anyway.
     

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