Willy #19 - Who gets the larger piece of the Toblerone bar?

[AustrianHockeyfan]

I guess he wants to be the No1 guy somewhere... With us he is only No4.

 

[taurine330]

I guess he wants to be the No1 guy somewhere... With us he is only No4.

Can a team win SC with Willie as No1 guy? I would rather think he would want to win. Stanley Cup champions are a big deal in Finland. I would imagine they are in Sweden as well.

 

[kindalaidback]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like shit? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I guess he wants to be the No1 guy somewhere... With us he is only No4.

there aren't many teams I can think of where he'd be the best player, and I don't see why anyone would want to play for one of them

 

[taurine330]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

Who exactly?

 

[Leafs at Knight]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

Lol what? I'm sure Willy spends all his free time on HF, and hasn't signed yet because some people on the internet are calling him mean names.

 

[CelticDruid]

No contract.

Bye bye Willy. You can pretty much put a fork in it, Nylander is cooked. He is out, you will not see him back with the Leafs.

Time to focus on a trade.

Lol.

 

[hotpaws]

Who exactly?

well it isn't the Me-Willie crowd on here that's for sure , lol

anyway i doubt this has much to do with the continued stalemate , hopefully Dube's little book contains more than just random thoughts that came to him while he was dropping a deuce on the toilet since he game plan of low balling him and waiting Willie out doesn't seem to be working

 

[AppsSyl]

Maybe I'm looking into this too deeply, but up until now, I've seen Photos of Nylander practicing in Leafs gear... is this this first time he elected not to wear Leafs gear...? Maybe he has no plans on budging and realizes his Leafs days are numbered??

He has a Maple Leaf on his helmet.

 

[Canadian Finn]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

how do you know anyone has done that.

you can't be referring to social media...as that isn't real life. that is just internet trolls.

i don't think willy gives a rats arse about internet trolls and what they spew on social media.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

“Oh... won’t anybody think of the utterly elite millionaire athletes before they type mere words on obscure internet message boards?”

 

[Brown Dog]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

Boo hoo. He's a hockey player. Get out there and play hockey!

 

[Kiwi]

That seems kind of weird. Having a player or agent ask around the league if their team would take him?

Not really

You just tell Gross if he can find someone willing to pay Nylander what he wants to get them to call the Leafs and we'll try to work out a trade with them

It's a "if your going to be a pain in the ass you can do the work yourself" move

 

[DarkKnight]

What reports

Lebrun for one.

 

[Mr Hockey]

why do you think he is training with an Austrian team? think about it, it is the most non-threatening league in Europe for the T.O media to catch onto and run wild with speculation. If he were seriously thinking about not coming back to N.A he's be with a Swedish team or a KHL team.

i think he is in Austria watching his sister in a tennis tourney, i could be wrong

 

[ITM]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

Wait, wait, wait...I'm one of many people on this board who continue to argue to bring in Nylander and have him remain a Maple Leaf for a very long time. I'm not in the minority and I'm one of many who continue to note his value opposite to the numerous, insufferable Brett Pesce proposals that see William Nylander for the very talented player and desirable piece for our club that he is.

The accusation is "treated him like ****"? By appealing to sign for less millions noting the opportunity to compensate that loss of millions through endorsement deals and future opportunities to sign many more millions when the appropriate time arises, customary with most star NHL traditional contract routes?

And "have verbally abused him?" With an essentially staff controlled (i.e. albeit of one perhaps) Twitter account and sports psychologists on the ready, media training in hand, it's as though you're attempting to characterize Nylander as an isolated and bullied 13-year old over image and relationship issues. This is a well-trained, well-sourced professional athlete who knows more about his identity and strength of character than you'll likely ever have to be tested to determine. What absolute nonsense.

And "have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family"? That's babble too. A fanbase such as Toronto's - worldwide mind you - is given to cite his father on contextual related concerns, but implying and impugning the entire fan base as having behaved this way towards William and his (implied, entire) family, is just degenerative wishful thinking.

And it's rejected wishful thinking, thank you very much.

 

[diceman934]

god, you guys are still insufferable. good to see that nothing has really changed.

"i DoNt UnDerStAnD wHy He WoUlDnT wAnNa SiGn RiGhT nOw??????"

well, idk, maybe because people have treated him like ****? have verbally abused him? have dragged his name through the mud and slandered his family? who would wanna play for any of you?

eta: thats, at least, how i would feel like if i was him.

If Nylander is reading posts on here he Has far to much time on his hands. No one slandered his family as truth is not slander. His father was a pain in the ass when it came to contracts as well as he was not a well like team mates. Willy is well liked by his team mates.

 

[hotpaws]

Not really

You just tell Gross if he can find someone willing to pay Nylander what he wants to get them to call the Leafs and we'll try to work out a trade with them

there's been many reports teams have called and asked about his availability and since they can and probably did speak to his agent before they called Dubas it doesn't seem like it would be a problem for many teams to agree on a contract with him

 

[kindalaidback]

Lol what? I'm sure Willy spends all his free time on HF, and hasn't signed yet because some people on the internet are calling him mean names.

you don't think he reads the stuff people write about him on social media, on twitter? matthews said that fans dm him when he has a bad game. don't you think that hasn't happened to nylander? if it's true that he is worried about being traded (dubas said they're not interested in trading him), then it's because the media has talked about trading him for a defenseman for the past two years.

and i added that it would be my reason for not signing if i was him. my take on why he hasn't signed yet because i don't believe it's about not getting 8m. but even if my take isn't true, insulting him and calling him names it's still a shitty thing to do. i dont get why the majority of you (not only on hf boards) think it's ok to do it. and it has nothing to do with being a passionate fan that cares about their team, it's just about being an asshole.

and if some of you think that's fair game [calling him names], then i feel kinda sad for you.

 

[ottomaddox]

Lebrun for one.

Yes. Lebrun (reported today) feels that the next 10 days are crucial. If a bridge can't be agreed on then he'll be traded.

 

[RAM]

well it isn't the Me-Willie crowd on here that's for sure , lol

anyway i doubt this has much to do with the continued stalemate , hopefully Dube's little book contains more than just random thoughts that came to him while he was dropping a deuce on the toilet since he game plan of low balling him and waiting Willie out doesn't seem to be working

No one knows what was offered so we do not know if he was low balling him or not. From all the speculation what is being offered is 6million + per season that is not a low ball offer that is full price on the closest comparables

 

[LeafsHome]

We should sign Nylander to a bridge deal and make him the 3rd line center. If he's as good as he thinks he is, he should be able to drive that line and put up points without Matthews. The Kadri line hasn't really been working well and this will allow Kadri to have more icetime and play in a more shutdown/matchup role with a scoring threat with Tavares... which is where he is best. If Nylander can put up big numbers centering that 3rd line on his bridge deal... then he gets paid big for his next contract. So this will give him a chance to show everyone what he can do. Kapanen is a competent RW and the guys who could play on his LW would be pretty good too.

____ - Matthews - Marner
Kadri - Tavares - Hyman
_____ - Nylander - Kapanen
_____ - Goat/Lindholm - Brown

Slot in Marleau, Leivo, Johnsson, Ennis, or Lindholm into the blank LW spots.

Why are people obsessing with the production of the 3rd line - who cares about their production or the 4th line for that matter - their primary job should be to keep the other team from scoring. This team is all about AM MM JT and WN and they need to be stacked on two lines.

 

[Kiwi]

there's been many reports teams have called and asked about his availability and since they can and probably did speak to his agent before they called Dubas it doesn't seem like it would be a problem for many teams to agree on a contract with him

I'm not entirely sure on that, I'd imagine a lot of those teams making enquiries haven't gone that far down the road, I'd think it's just a check to see how things are going just in case it gets toxic and he becomes available

I wouldn't bother with the agent and potential money demands until Nylander is "on the market" so to speak

 

[hotpaws]

No one knows what was offered so we do not know if he was low balling him or not. From all the speculation what is being offered is 6million + per season that is not a low ball offer that is full price on the closest comparables

Kyper said he heard we offered just over 4m x 4yrs , others keep speculating 6per but without knowing what the term is 6m per could go from an overpayment -6m x 2yrs to a lowball -6m x 7/8yrs.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Anyone willing to give Nylander 8 mill if that is in fact what he's asking for, will regret it