Tribute William Nylander Discussion Thread: Ya Gotta Be Blessed Edition

[Notsince67]

This season Nylander has been more consistent on a game to game basis. Lets not pretend anymore. Its okay to admit it. I know hes not Canadian but that shouldn't matter.

Is that right. Why dont you look at the game by game log and report back at the longest streak without a point. If you have anything else I'm interested in what u got.

 

[Peasy]

Is that right. Why dont you look at the game by game log and report back at the longest streak without a point. If you have anything else I'm interested in what u got.

Honest question, have you made a post in the Nylander thread without it involving Marner in any possible way? Why do you even click on this thread? The second someone isn't praising Marner in this thread you have to give you 2 cents about how great Marner is.

 

[Notsince67]

Honest question, have you made a post in the Nylander thread without it involving Marner in any possible way? Why do you even click on this thread? The second someone isn't praising Marner in this thread you have to give you 2 cents about how great Marner is.

Maybe you should follow the conversation beginning with Marner being less consistent than Nylander. If you cant keep up, stop posting vapid nonesense.

 

[Menzinger]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

 

[Peasy]

Maybe you should follow the conversation beginning with Marner being less consistent than Nylander. If you cant keep up, stop posting vapid nonesense.

Well that clearly answers my question.

 

[1specter]

is better defensively

Debatable. Marner has a slightly better xGA/60 this season but Nylander rates better in CA/60, SCA/60, and HDCA/60. Matthews has also been very good defensively this year and they also have Hyman on the line who we all know is a defensive stud. Nylander has Tavares who looks a step slower this year and a revolving door for LW.

They've kinda alternated in the previous seasons... Marner was one of the worst defensively last year while Nylander was about average, but Nylander was more sheltered due to coming back mid-season and struggling. In 17-18, Marner was better, but he was also more sheltered playing lower in the lineup for the first half of the season or so until he joined Kadri's line permanently.

As rookies, Nylander's numbers were much better. Over the 4 cumulative seasons, Nylander ends up rating better overall, but they've obviously both grown as players. Nylander also faced harder competition his first two seasons than Marner did.

IMO Nylander has better positioning and natural defensive awareness, and is also less prone to turnovers while being stronger on the puck and boards. Marner plays better 'active' defense and is good at forcing turnovers from the other team.

 

[Dekes For Days]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

 

[saffronleaf]

Honest question, have you made a post in the Nylander thread without it involving Marner in any possible way? Why do you even click on this thread? The second someone isn't praising Marner in this thread you have to give you 2 cents about how great Marner is.

He's the Chief Hound. Be careful, anything you say critical of Marner can and will be used against you in any and all threads relating to any and all topics.

 

[StevenB]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

Like any other sane fan would. No reason to hate on either of them, both of them are amazing players

 

[ZEBROA]

Nylander had games he played a lot better then Marner at the start of the season, but Marner got points many of those games while Nylander got nothing. And points aint all in hockey. Its also good to keep the momentum and preassure. Nylander has been more consistent in effort but not in points. Nylanders lowest has been higher this season. Marner has had deeper lows and higher highs. I dont say Nylander is better then Marner, just that its closer then it seems on paper. And Nylanders nack for finding goal lately closes the gap. Being on first ppl will make it closer in point production. Not because he will get more ppl points then Marner but it will boost Nylanders confidence 5v5. But there is a gap between them and it should be. A 4mill gap? Not if Nylander become a ppg player with twice amount of goals. Not there yet, he might suck rest of the season.

 

[Gabriel426]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

That’s illegal within Leafs Nation. Only 1 winger at a time

 

[Notsince67]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

Nobody is pissing on Nylander here. Just a few who need to crap on Marner by wrongly using Nylander as a comparison to knock Marner. I really dont understand the "addition by subtraction " crowd. There is substantially lower hanging fruit to criticize in this team. Forget about the discussion of tradable untouchables. The conversation of body of work should render both Marner and Nylander untouchables in a discussion of criticism. Criticize an individual game but both these boys are playing awesome.

 

[Notsince67]

Nylander had games he played a lot better then Marner at the start of the season, but Marner got points many of those games while Nylander got nothing. And points aint all in hockey. Its also good to keep the momentum and preassure. Nylander has been more consistent in effort but not in points. Nylanders lowest has been higher this season. Marner has had deeper lows and higher highs. I dont say Nylander is better then Marner, just that its closer then it seems on paper. And Nylanders nack for finding goal lately closes the gap. Being on first ppl will make it closer in point production. Not because he will get more ppl points then Marner but it will boost Nylanders confidence 5v5. But there is a gap between them and it should be. A 4mill gap? Not if Nylander become a ppg player with twice amount of goals. Not there yet, he might suck rest of the season.

There is always a possibility that they both fall off a cliff but the possibility is mostly an academic thought exercise. These guys are young and it is more likely that they both get better.

 

[Welsh Maple Leaf]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

Unpossible

 

[ShaneFalco]

In a potentially very controversial opinion: I like both Nylander and Marner.

Inconceivable!!!

 

[ULF_55]

Flames and moths.

This team needs all their best players playing their best.

 

[stickty111]

As expected he looked slow today, and Keefe might have realized and took him off the 1st PP.

 

[Menzinger]

As expected he looked slow today, and Keefe might have realized and took him off the 1st PP.

Probably still dealing with aftereffects of the flu

 

[1specter]

As expected he looked slow today, and Keefe might have realized and took him off the 1st PP.

I think that's why Keefe had his lines the way he did. With both Nylander and Tavares coming off the flu, he probably didn't want them together tonight

 

[frizzer1]

He used to look so sloppy with the puck.
Now he protects it and makes the smart play.
Most improved player on this team, for me.

 

[HellasLEAF]

Nylander was downright atrocious.

I honestly screamed get him off the ice. Might be the first time. Pathetic display.

Not sure he was ready to be back clearly. I have been signing his praises but not tonight. The Willy from before the illness was fantastic.

 

[stickty111]

Nylander was downright atrocious.

I honestly screamed get him off the ice. Might be the first time. Pathetic display.

Not sure he was ready to be back clearly. I have been signing his praises but not tonight. The Willy from before the illness was fantastic.

Or coming back from a flu is tough and takes time to get your game back. Lets relax.

 

[CelticDruid]

Nylander was downright atrocious.

I honestly screamed get him off the ice. Might be the first time. Pathetic display.

Not sure he was ready to be back clearly. I have been signing his praises but not tonight. The Willy from before the illness was fantastic.

Overreaction much!

He was fine.

Atrocious post.

 

[saffronleaf]

Nice to see Willy back. Clearly first game after the flu, probably still battling some of its effects. He'll be great soon.

 

[Nithoniniel]

He wasn't good, but he also wasn't himself. The skating wasn't quite there, the endurance wasn't there, the strength wasn't there. Hopefully he gets up to speed soon, I'd love to give that line another try.