Speculation: Why Dion's Next Contract Will Be Cap Friendly

[BayStreetBullies*]

I'd say 7 million is fair. If he signs for 6.5 but with a longer term, that's great too. I don't expect him to take a paycut, he's definitely earned the big contract.

 

[TootooTrain]

You won't find two more similar players in hockey than Shea Weber and Dion Phaneuf.

Not even the twins are as similar.

Statistically on a spreadsheet maybe.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Not according to some of the dreamers on here:

4-year contract
5.5-6.5 cap hit
Phaneuf should take a pay cut
He's already peaked, and will get worse from here on out
etc.

Just some of the gems that have been thrown out there.

Indeed!

LOL what has happened to this thread? Some people are even saying let him walk - WTF is going on here? Just think, when was the last time Toronto had a d-man as good as Phaneuf. Has there been anyone since Salming?

I dunno, what do these people have against having an all-star caliber d-man anchour our D? We finally get one and ... let him walk?

Boggles my mind.

 

[Pookie]

The equation is simply this:

a) Keep Dion at a cost in the range of $7M per season for 5-7 years

b) Trade Dion, secure an asset (probably a draft pick/prospect), use the money in the offseason to replace his roster spot. No guarantees you will replace quality for quality.

In choosing b) you are likely parlaying Dion into 2 NHL players for the same salary BUT putting a big dent in the potential playoff success of the team over the short term

Though maybe not the right decision, I'd be shocked if the team chooses anything but a).

 

[BayStreetBullies*]

Indeed!

LOL what has happened to this thread? Some people are even saying let him walk - WTF is going on here? Just think, when was the last time Toronto had a d-man as good as Phaneuf. Has there been anyone since Salming?

I dunno, what do these people have against having an all-star caliber d-man anchour our D? We finally get one and ... let him walk?

Boggles my mind.

Besides Salming, I guess Kaberle might come close. And maybe Larry Murphy although he was a scapegoat in his 2 seasons with us.

 

[Jer416]

Phaneuf Contract Talks

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/phaneuf-contract-negotiations-underway/

Not sure if its been posted, but apparently contract negotiations started with Phaneuf and right now, its at 7.1m for 7 years...

Thoughts?

 

[SprDaVE]

I think that's fair, all though the term seems a little long for his age.

But overall, that's a cap hit we should expect for Phaneuf.

 

[zeke]

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I like how it isn't starting higher than that. Optimistic for it to be around that number- hopefully a bit lower

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Don't like the term and the cap hit is slightly high imo. Not outlandish but not ideal.

 

[bobbyflex]

sounds like a deal will get done. I'm ok with the cap hit. Term is concerning though

 

[Duke Silver]

At 8 years it's gotta be under $6.5M.

However, it's hard to find a good UFA comparable. Keith and Yandle signed their deals as RFAs. Chara and Weber are perennial Norris candidates. Streit and Timonen are too old. Suter's deal was more than 8 years. Edler is clearly a level below Phaneuf.

 

[Murphy Blue]

7 years is a long, long time. 7 mill is more than fair for Phaneuf though. Would prefer to see 36 mill over 5 years IMO

 

[firstemperor]

He'd get way more on the open market but was hoping for a bigger discount. The last thing we need is Grabo or Liles 2.0, not that it matters for a player of Phaneuf's calibre (most of the time)- but for cap integrity purposes.

7 years at current cap hit or a bit lower would be amazing.

 

[I Believe]

Extremely confident he's gonna sign long term with us.

Just gotta hope the $ amount is fair.

 

[Jer416]

At 8 years it's gotta be under $6.5M.

7 years is a long, long time. 7 mill is more than fair for Phaneuf though. Would prefer to see 36 mill over 5 years IMO

Apparently Leafs dont want 8 and Phaneuf wants at least 6 years. I'd be fine with anything from 6.8-7 for 7 years...you can't replace his minutes :/

 

[TootooTrain]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1516403&page=12

 

[Duke Silver]

Apparently Leafs dont want 8 and Phaneuf wants at least 6 years. I'd be fine with anything from 6.8-7 for 7 years...you can't replace his minutes :/

7 at $6.75M, I could stomach.

 

[Jtabo]

/thread

8 years 55-60 mil.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

If Kyper is correct, 7+ per, that's a lot of dough. Need to think about that.

 

[shakes]

If Kyper is correct, 7+ per, that's a lot of dough. Need to think about that.

Think about who he is replaced by.

 

[maplehawk]

let's be very careful taking kyper's word for gospel here.

if you actually watched the video, it's obvious that hyper is just guessing and really has no clue.

 

[Diatomic]

Cap hit is scary.

 

[TootooTrain]

let's be very careful taking kyper's word for gospel here.

if you actually watched the video, it's obvious that hyper is just guessing and really has no clue.

Not to mention a little while ago we were convinced Kadri's agent was asking 40M over 8 years.

 

[Alerion]

I'd be fine with that number. A year less on the term would be nice but I don't know how realistic that is. 7x years at anything under 7 would make me happy but 7.1 isn't too crazy a number, especially to start with.

Hope we get Dion signed quickly and reasonably.