Speculation: Why Dion's Next Contract Will Be Cap Friendly
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Rare Jewel
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Good ol Wilbur.
I should say though I don't completely disagree, 7 is too much IMO; But anything with a 4 is an insult.
Jtabo
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You do realize before he was drafted he was praised for his hockey IQ more than anything. People in Toronto have come up with so many myths about him that are completely false. Yes he has become a very smart player. If you watch him this year he makes so many smart plays and has simpfiled his game.
This was so brutal I had to go onto twitter and tell him how it was the worst thing I've seen Toronto media write in a long time, and that he should retire his job and opinions.
ironrhcp
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I just don't see it. Why are we paying this guy that much. He eats minutes, thats it.....Most of the time he's a step or two behind.
Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
I have bashed Phaneuf in the past but he has played great this year so far.
5 years at 7million/year would be ok with me but I fear he's getting a lot more.
5 years at 7million/year would be ok with me but I fear he's getting a lot more.
Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
How about you actually look at some statistics and objectively watch the games this year and realize that hes shut down almost every single top line from teams like Chicago, Pittsburgh, Anaheim etc. No one is even talking about his points, he's just been a damn good defencemen.
Jtabo
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The only way I can spin 4x4 as being risky is that your risk the guy never wanting to talk to you again after you offer him that.
This is just the worst thing my eyes have ever read. How does he have a job?
Jtabo
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Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
April fools is a ways away. Nice try though.
Leafidelity
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Some just can't get past hits and points. They watch the game and comment on how he has a stiffness to his style, then don't notice that he's played half the game and hasn't been scored on.
He's the first choice out there for the PP, he's the first choice for the PK, he's the first choice for ES. No other player on the Leafs can say that.
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Jtabo
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You don't have to be smooth skating and all over the ice like Gardiner and Rielly to be good. Some of the best defenceman all time are that way because they play a smart and simple game. I.E. Lidstrom
He doesn't have one any more, does he? I thought he was replaced on AM 640 by something non-hockey related. That's how bad he was & how unsaleable his **** was.
Phaneuf would get 7m a year on the open market.
Bill Watters is a crazy, bitter, irrelevant old man. Bob McGowan is just a babbling idiot.
There isn't anyone at all to replace him: Upcoming D-man UFAs
Bill Watters is a crazy, bitter, irrelevant old man. Bob McGowan is just a babbling idiot.
There isn't anyone at all to replace him: Upcoming D-man UFAs
We better do one of two things or I'll be really mad:
A) Sign Phaneuf.
B) If you don't sign Phaneuf...you're screwed. We can't make the playoffs unless Rielly takes a HUGE step forward so might as well tank it for McDavid
(I am 49% serious).
A) Sign Phaneuf.
B) If you don't sign Phaneuf...you're screwed. We can't make the playoffs unless Rielly takes a HUGE step forward so might as well tank it for McDavid
(I am 49% serious).Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
He only plays the most ES, PK and PP minutes of any one on the leafs. And is one of the most effective in the league at it.
Who would YOU propose we replace phaneuf and his minutes with?
That rings warning bells he is having his best year so far this season, coincidence he is in a contract year. Next year he goes back to his same oh same oh, so so self. He is way overated and does appear to be in slow motion all the time.
StringsAttached
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Pronger was a pretty poor skater as well. I'd say Phaneuf is better than him in that regard.
I never understood that myth. It's so false.
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Jtabo
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1 assist and +2 so far tonight. I have been a huge fan of his since his time in red deer and have always followed him closely. I can safely say this is the best all around hockey he has ever played. If he keeps this up, which I don't see why he can't, I can see him making team Canada and challenging for the Norris.
I am thinking similar value, but over eight years. There's no way he's agreeing to less years especially at a massive discount.
Oskar The Groucho
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We will regret signing Phaneuf to anything over 5 years and $7,000,000 per. He is just not a Franchise Defense cornerstone.
5 Years at $5,750,000 is perfect for him.
5 Years at $5,750,000 is perfect for him.
You could be right and that wouldn't be the end of the world, Dion is just entering his prime. Hopefully the cap keeps rising, making long term deals look like steals in a few seasons. Ink him Nonis.
FlareKnight
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Yeah, good luck getting him to take that kind of paycut.
If we get him around $6.75 that will be a great positive. Otherwise just gets what he gets. In the end he is a top pairing guy and he can provide good offense while playing against top lines. We can't replace that.
