Who sits when Booth/Kesler arrive?

[me2]

One reason to keep Ebbett over Malhotra is it saves us 300k. I can't say that's worth it.

I bet this is nothing.

 

[me2]

I would find it hard to believe SOME team SOMEWHERE doesn't wanna bite on a guy who they don't even have to pay 50% 2.5 mil for one year.

It's a lot for a guy getting put on waivers. There are some teams looking for factors guys but still

 

[Hammman]

Keep in mind he and his wife had a baby not too long ago.

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

Ebbett and Volpatti, Weise becomes 13th forward.

 

[iCanuck]

Gotta be able to dress either Weise or Volpatti in certain games against tougher opponents who may try to push us around. I don't think we can just rely on Lapierre to carry that out and Kassian will be in the top 9 permanently.

(Higgins - Lapierre - Malhotra) won't do.

 

[604]

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Higgins - Kesler - Kassian
Booth - Schroeder - Raymond
Wiese - Lapierre - Hansen
Volpatti - Maholtra

Hamhuis - Edler
Garrison - Bieksa
Ballard - Tanev
Barker

Schneider
Luongo

That's it, Alberts + Ebbet are gone IMO. No problem if they pick Alberts over Barker either.

 

[orcatown]

Probably beyond wishful thinking that someone would pick Malhotra up, but at least worth a try.

You wonder (perhaps hope is the better word) that maybe Malhotra's eye situation might make him a candidate for long term injury reserve. Obviously his play has completely fallen off the table since the injury so there is evidence of that the injury did somewhat disable him.

 

[Jarko2004]

This thread shows clearly why we shouldn't trade a goalie (till summer). Any immediate forward upgrade (of a trade) is highly unlikely to outweigh the insurance in goal (need 2 goalies anyway).

 

[kanuck87]

This thread shows clearly why we shouldn't trade a goalie (till summer). Any immediate forward upgrade (of a trade) is highly unlikely to outweigh the insurance in goal (need 2 goalies anyway).

With this mindset, when will it ever benefit the Canucks to get rid of either Luongo/Schneider? This is just complete paranoia.

 

[StringerBell]

Hearing Malhotra sent down. Hasn't been announced yet.

Disappointing news in my opinion. Hope you're wrong on this one!

 

[Drop the Sopel]

There could be a deal in the works for his replacement perhaps? Which would explain why they need to get rid of the guy with a 2.5m cap hit (who will probably get claimed). Otherwise there's no reason to send him down given that Kesler still says there's no timetable.

If Kesler and Booth come off IR are we over the cap with everyone in the mix?

If not, you would have to think they foresee some salary coming in...

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Wow...not doubting Flames1084 at all, but this is a real head scratcher for me if it comes to pass. Kesler and Booth are big cap hits, but I thought we still had wiggle room if guys like Ebbett etc. were demoted?

Also, it would also include Gillis skipping around an NTC which he claimed he would never do...

This is odd.

 

[Tiranis]

If Kesler and Booth come off IR are we over the cap with everyone in the mix?

If not, you would have to think they foresee some salary coming in...

They're on IR, but not LTIR so we're already fitting in under the cap with all of them. We have no cap issues as it is right now, in fact we have room and are currently accumulating savings for the trade deadline.

 

[me2]

Wow...not doubting Flames1084 at all, but this is a real head scratcher for me if it comes to pass. Kesler and Booth are big cap hits, but I thought we still had wiggle room if guys like Ebbett etc. were demoted?

Also, it would also include Gillis skipping around an NTC which he claimed he would never do...

This is odd.

it would only make sense if Gillis and Manny had a chat and Manny agreed it was for the best. Maybe he just goes to the minors then and goes home but gets paid for it or takes on a non-hockey role. Kind of a paid retirement thing.

Still smells like BS to me.

 

[RealGudbranson]

Wow...not doubting Flames1084 at all, but this is a real head scratcher for me if it comes to pass. Kesler and Booth are big cap hits, but I thought we still had wiggle room if guys like Ebbett etc. were demoted?

Also, it would also include Gillis skipping around an NTC which he claimed he would never do...

This is odd.

Well, Kesler and Booth were never on LTIR, so their cap hits have counted against the cap this whole season. Answering the poster above you, two people will need to be sent down to be compliant with the 23 man roster limit, barring further injuries.

If Malhotra is being sent down; I hope there is more to it then him just being waived. Considering the way Gillis values his players (except maybe his old injured players ala Mitchell, Ohlund, Salo, Sturm, Samuelsson) and his views on NTCs, plus the fact that Malhotra's family has just expanded, I imagine there'd have to be bigger reasons for him to be sent down than a 300K cap savings.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

it would only make sense if Gillis and Manny had a chat and Manny agreed it was for the best. Maybe he just goes to the minors then and goes home but gets paid for it or takes on a non-hockey role. Kind of a paid retirement thing.

Still smells like BS to me.

I could kind of see it if Malhotra had been relegated to the box office to this point, but he's still playing a regular role on the team as a face off and PK specialist, while we have others who haven't even dressed for a game yet.

If this is indeed occurring, I think Tiranis is right and that we could see another transaction occur in short order.

 

[pitseleh]

If Kesler and Booth come off IR are we over the cap with everyone in the mix?

If not, you would have to think they foresee some salary coming in...

The Canucks haven't even put either on LTIR because they still have ~$850k in cap space as it stands. They're just on IR for roster space.

I can't see them waiving him without knowing that some team is going to claim him, as there isn't much benefit to sending him to the minors over a guy like Ebbett. It could be that they want the cap space for a potential deadline deal, though I don't see Gillis weakening the team for a hypothetical upgrade.

On the bright side, if this is true I think it's likely that Kesler is going to be back sooner rather than later.

 

[Aqualung]

Here's hoping Chris Higgins has been fed misleading news.

I don't want Ebbett on the team over Malhotra. Malhotra should figure into the lineup even when everyone's healthy.

 

[thepuckmonster]

I don't want Lapierre or Ebbett on this team over Malhotra. Lapierre has been next to useless with his new 20lbs of weight gain. And Ebbett is... Ebbett.

I really hope it's not true, that's shady to send Manny down.

 

[JawandaPuck]

If Malhotra is indeed getting waived, management's intent IMO is to be able to bank more cap space by the TDL than what they are currently tracking to be able to bank (~$3M according to Capgeek).

I could foresee a move to bring in a big veteran center (possibly winger) making ~$5M. But if that happens, it won't be until early April IMO.

Eliminating Malhotra's $2.5M cap hit would accommodate such a maneuver from a cap hit perspective. Of course the bait could be Jordan Schroeder himself, who would need to be further showcased IMO -- another reason a roster spot needs to be freed up.

 

[thepuckmonster]

If Malhotra is indeed getting waived, management's intent IMO is to be able to bank more cap space by the TDL than what they are currently tracking to be able to bank (~$3M according to Capgeek).

I could foresee a move to bring in a big veteran center (possibly winger) making ~$5M. But if that happens, it won't be until early April IMO.

I don't really see any veteran centermen available aside from Weiss and I assume that's in a Luongo deal.

It's pretty risky to attempt Manny down and hope he clears, and then bring him back up (like we wanted to do with Reinprecht). I'd send Ebbett and carry Malhotra as the 13th, and throw Booth on retroactive LTIR if there's a trade brewing.

 

[racerjoe]

I don't really see any veteran centermen available aside from Weiss and I assume that's in a Luongo deal.

It's pretty risky to attempt Manny down and hope he clears, and then bring him back up (like we wanted to do with Reinprecht). I'd send Ebbett and carry Malhotra as the 13th, and throw Booth on retroactive LTIR if there's a trade brewing.

If what I have heard is correct, than we don't actually save any money, as we would need to go over the cap now, to save the money later... I know it is complicated.

 

[RobertKron]

I don't really see any veteran centermen available aside from Weiss and I assume that's in a Luongo deal.

It's pretty risky to attempt Manny down and hope he clears, and then bring him back up (like we wanted to do with Reinprecht). I'd send Ebbett and carry Malhotra as the 13th, and throw Booth on retroactive LTIR if there's a trade brewing.

If they're waiving Malhotra, I think that it's unlikely that they're hoping he clears.

 

[thepuckmonster]

If what I have heard is correct, than we don't actually save any money, as we would need to go over the cap now, to save the money later... I know it is complicated.

Saving money isn't the objective, it's allowing us to go over the cap until Booth returns. It's pretty complicated though.

I can't see management exposing Manny to waivers, he's a defensive specialist. This is just not a Gillis move.

If they're waiving Malhotra, I think that it's unlikely that they're hoping he clears.

Malhotra has decent value for what he does. He's at least worth a pick. San Jose would jump on him in a second, do we really want to have to take face offs against him, especially when we're already weak on them so far this year?

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don't want Lapierre or Ebbett on this team over Malhotra. Lapierre has been next to useless with his new 20lbs of weight gain. And Ebbett is... Ebbett.

I really hope it's not true, that's shady to send Manny down.

Lapierre has looked considerably better in his last 3-4 games. But the central point remains - there are other people who should be sent down before Malhotra if this is just a roster move to accommodate players returning from injury. The only way this makes sense to me is if it is a precursor to something else.