Speculation: Who Should Detroit Pick at 4th?
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Killerjas
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I wouldnt be surprised if Yzerman drafts Askarov. Leave him for 2/3 years in the KHL and when our team is competitive he could come over. Then you have a potential starter for the next 15ish years.
Frk It
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Our team is going to be competitive in 2-3 years without using this 2020 top pick on a skater?
Bold statement.
jkutswings
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I dunno. Based on recent franchise history, competitive can mean having an outside chance at sneaking into the playoffs, and thereby serving as token cannon fodder to any legit contender.
But yeah, not landing a high-end skater next month would seem like a missed opportunity.
lilidk
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Killerjas
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I dunno, maybe next year after drafting one of the top defenders in Power/Clarke/Edvinsson and in 2022 Shane Wright and seeing Rasmussen, Veleno, Seider, Johansson get promoted to NHL. Then maybe.
MBH
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Please stop acting like we have a decent shot at Shane Wright, or that we should somehow factor that possibility into the plans.
It's literally the same thing as budgeting as if you were going to win the lottery.
Killerjas
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MBH
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Notice the "maybe" in my sentence?
That's the best case scenario I am illustrating. But yeah I do believe we could be a play-off team in 3 years time if we get some pieces
My bad.
I think it's closer to 4-5 years to really be a legit playoff contender.
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In a vacuum, I think Askarov is deserving of being taken at 4. I certainly think he is good enough.
But there are 2 bi-products of that selection I just cannot endorse.
1) It pretty much assuredly lengthens the re-build.
2) It puts a lot of additional pressure on you hitting on your picks in rounds 2-7.
But there are 2 bi-products of that selection I just cannot endorse.
1) It pretty much assuredly lengthens the re-build.
2) It puts a lot of additional pressure on you hitting on your picks in rounds 2-7.
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
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just pick someone with a high ceiling, we need stars
i dont want the lundells, sandersons, etc. Good chance they'll be quality players but I want something more at 4OA
i dont want the lundells, sandersons, etc. Good chance they'll be quality players but I want something more at 4OA
I am not so sure outside of picking 1st OA, any player we pick was going to speed up the rebuild.
I am certain (and hopeful) that the DRW will be picking bottom four in 21 and 22 draft.
If Askarov has the most "franchise" potential at our draft spot in SY's eyes, then draft him
Dotter
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Also people forget (or fail to acknowledge) while the #4 is an important pick, it's also imperative to hit on some late round gems (aka Point, Kucherov).
If all you can do is hit on your top picks, but can't snag some steals later in the draft... then you're nothing more than the 2007-2013 Edmonton Oilers.
If all you can do is hit on your top picks, but can't snag some steals later in the draft... then you're nothing more than the 2007-2013 Edmonton Oilers.
Go Wings
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If we really want a goalie then lets just trade the 4th overall to Florida for Spencer Knight or trade it to the Islanders for Sorokin.
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DatsyukToZetterberg
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100% agreed. A rebuild is only as good as the teams ability to hit on some of their late round picks. Even ignoring the Point's and Kucherov's of TB they've got Palat, 7th round pick as an overager; Gourde, UDFA; Johnson, UDFA; and Killorn, 3rd round pick, who are all playing in key positions. You don't need to hit on every pick, but you should get at least something from your late round picks and I think it only becomes more important once you're an established contender. Having the ability to replace 2nd/3rd liners with players on ELCs is so valuable for a contending team.
In a lot of ways I think the Wings have some of those pieces in the "old" core. Mantha, Larkin, and Bertuzzi are all going to be key contributers for the Wings in 2-3 years time, but the rebuild will only go as far as Seider, the 2020, and 2021/2022 picks will carry them.
Kingpin794
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Interesting set of quotes. The game is less and less dump and chase. Will continue to be less so as time goes on. Perfetti knows what he is and what he isn't. Think this is why you see some people view him as busy material. He isn't meant for old style of play.
The Real Pastafarian
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This is great stuff, great post, Kingpin.
So I'm going to conclude from this that if we draft Perfetti, we're also going to get a new coach.
I've been Drysdale all the way, and Perfetti is one guy I was thinking we might regret drafting, but if we're going to finally rid ourselves of Blashcock or Babshill (I haven't watched hockey in so long that I honestly can't remember which of these I'd sandwich between "f*cking" and "dipsh*t")...I will allow it.
Barry Amsterdam
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Sanderson gets changed to who ever we pick and we are none the wiser
Don't give MBH any ideas.
But hell have about 10000 posts to go through so we should be safe for a while
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The Zetterberg Era
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I think Perfetti would maximize Zadina's potential. They just might be one of those cases where both guys becomes so much better because of it. Their games really fit each other, I am super intrigued by that aspect if we take him. I think Raymond could obviously compliment him too, but I have a feeling Perfetti is almost a better fit with Zadina. Still I would pick Raymond if it was ultimately up to me because I think he ultimately plays with Mantha and they would mesh pretty well in my opinion. I just trust him as a line driver even a little bit more. But I do think Perfetti is going to be a terrific offensive player, his offensive upside is enormous.
Perfetti - Rasmussen - Zadina could be kind of a tough line to contain offensively in a couple years I would hope. Plus there is also the 2021 or 2022 pick to think about long-term there.
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Who is being funny? These are the 2 best goalies not in the NHL. Sorokin will be ready next season. Knight probably needs a few years.
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