Which teams are on a complete ReBuild or should be?!

seafoam

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If Tavares does not re-sign, NYI needs to unload just about everyone that is hitting UFA in the next 24 months.
 

FlyTimmo

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Montreal and San Jose probably should look to rebuild. Montreal has a scary lineup. Scary for their own fans I mean.

After this year Chicago/Washington depending on the results of the playoffs maybe should look for a retool. There are also a couple other teams that might benefit for a small retool like both New York teams and maybe Philly. The Flyers are of course rebuilding at the moment, but I was referring to potentially parting with Voracek/Simmonds/Giroux/etc.
 

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Montreal has Drouin and Galchenyuk. They need them to step up until top line talents. Otherwise they are good. You could say the same thing about a lot of teams though.
 

AfroThunder396

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Montreal seems close to being on a rebuild. Canucks and Devils seem to be just starting the rebuild process. Leafs have done a very good job at rebuilding very quickly. The Jets seem to be well stocked ready for a breakout.

This will be our 3rd season rebuilding, and we'd be much further along if Shero didn't have to clean up the god awful mess Lou left.
 

thepuckmonster

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They're preparing to win the division for the 4th time in the last 6 years.

They may not be as tragic as people are making them out to be but the Atlantic hasn't exactly been much of a difficult division since realignment.

They're also the team that relies so heavily on one singular player so much that it seems silly to be defensive when people comment that they're one injury to Price away from being in the basement.
 

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Montreal is a huge mess, no elite young players, championship teams
Are usually built around Cs
 

Machinehead

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Nobody should be in a complete rebuild.

Teams that tear it down stay tearing it down for the next decade, unless they draft a generational talent by accident.
 

LeafFever

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really? it just took 10 years.

The Kessel trade wasn't even 10 years ago. You're including that time under Burke?
Just because they were missing the playoffs does not mean they were rebuilding. It started only 2 years ago.
 

Belial

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They may not be as tragic as people are making them out to be but the Atlantic hasn't exactly been much of a difficult division since realignment.

They're also the team that relies so heavily on one singular player so much that it seems silly to be defensive when people comment that they're one injury to Price away from being in the basement.

While Price is amazing and important to the success of this team the whole Habs are nothing without Price narrative is getting old, to be honest.

The team is playing solid hockey in front of him, he doesn't need to singlehandedly win them games every second night or stand on his head because we're getting dominated and the only chance to win the game is if he makes 50 saves. He just needs to be solid out there and nothing more.

Montoya has roughly the same SV% this year as Carey if not for that 10:0 embarrassment.
 

LeafFever

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While Price is amazing and important to the success of this team the whole Habs are nothing without Price narrative is getting old, to be honest.

The team is playing solid hockey in front of him, he doesn't need to singlehandedly win them games every second night or stand on his head because we're getting dominated and the only chance to win the game is if he makes 50 saves. He just needs to be solid out there and nothing more.

Montoya has roughly the same SV% this year as Carey if not for that 10:0 embarrassment.

The problem is that season he got hurt proved the theory right, So it's not going away anytime soon. We've seen them without Price. They were a bottom feeder (29th actually after his injury).
 

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The Kessel trade wasn't even 10 years ago. You're including that time under Burke?
Just because they were missing the playoffs does not mean they were rebuilding. It started only 2 years ago.

What the other poster is saying is that the Leafs didn't start from scratch 2 years ago...There was a platform already in place to build on..Kadri,Reilly,(plus support players JVR,Gardiner,Bozak).
 

LeafFever

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What the other poster is saying is that the Leafs didn't start from scratch 2 years ago...There was a platform already in place to build on..Kadri,Reilly,(plus support players JVR,Gardiner,Bozak).

Then no one truly rebuilds if you use that argument. The Leafs and Oilers are the only teams that have truly torn it down over the past few years. There's always going to be a couple of pieces from before the official time of a rebuild.

I take issue with including a time period where they traded 2 first rounders as a part of the rebuild.
 

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The problem is that season he got hurt proved the theory right, So it's not going away anytime soon. We've seen them without Price. They were a bottom feeder (29th actually after his injury).

Condon played under .900 in that awful stretch. Not really blaming the guy as he was not supposed to be in that chair but that team makes the playoff with a middle-of-the-road starter.
 

Belial

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The problem is that season he got hurt proved the theory right, So it's not going away anytime soon. We've seen them without Price. They were a bottom feeder (29th actually after his injury).

Yeah, maybe the problem was a rookie backup with .903 SV%?
 

LeafFever

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Condon played under .900 in that awful stretch. Not really blaming the guy as he was not supposed to be in that chair but that team makes the playoff with a middle-of-the-road starter.

Just mentioining that it did add fuel to the fire for the argument.
 

Riptide

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The Flyers are rebuilding without tanking.

The last 3 years, have drafted 9, 10, 9 picks and already have 10 for next year.
2015 two 1st rounders
2016 1st, and three 2nd rounders
2017 two 1st rounders, 2nd Rd pick
2018 currently have two 1st rounders already

Hextall has been adding lots of picks and using them to move up in drafts to get guys he wants. He has had 9 1st or 2nd Rd picks the last 3 years and 3 more for next year. And 7 off them have been used on forwards to complement the upcoming D and G pipeline that has been built.

Looking forward to 2018 strong draft and adding another D and another F to the mix.

Winnipeg did the same thing. New York (R), was more of a rebuild on the fly with getting younger and promoting some of the prospects.
 

Pastor Of Muppets

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LA, DET, VAN, SJ need to go full rebuild mode

LA Kings window is still very much open..Doughty is 27,Kopitar is 29,and Quick is 31..The team just needs an overhaul

DET needs to 'bottom out'..They have to get elite talent at the top of the draft (Vancouver is in the same boat,they need a replacement for the Sedins)..Canucks will be a lottery ticket team again this year,and are adding to their improving talent pool.

SJS have a good core of Burns,Couture,Pavelski..They have drafted well,and GM Wilson is one of the more shrewd GM's in the league.
 

Riptide

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Not that Canucks are inspiring me of doing the right thing but how is losing the lottery two years in a row (when we should have picked 3OA and 2OA respectively) robbing ourselves of higher and better picks.

Just to put how ridiculous the new lottery rules are: the Leafs are the only team since the 2010 Oilers to win the lottery as the worst team in the league.

Good - not that it was the Leafs, but that the worst team hasn't been automatically getting that pick (which is how it used to be). I was also overjoyed that Buffalo didn't win the McDavid lottery. Buffalo tanked like few have before - to the point they even traded their 2nd or 3rd string goalie after he started to win a couple of games. I hate seeing teams rewarded like that.

If you're **** (like Vancouver is - sorry), then while it sucks for them and their fans, I think that's a fair price to pay to ensure that teams are not tanking as hard as possible to try and secure those top picks.
 

Belial

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Nobody should be in a complete rebuild.

Teams that tear it down stay tearing it down for the next decade, unless they draft a generational talent by accident.

This!

Oilers were rebuilding for years and years and still going nowhere, if not for McJesus it would probably still be the case...
 

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