Where does Jack Eichel go in a 2015 redraft now?

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

I wouldn't trade Marner for Eichel. Marner brings so much to the table

Understandable since Leafs have Matthews and Tavares, but most teams still take Eichel over Marner

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Understandable since Leafs have Matthews and Tavares, but most teams still take Eichel over Marner

Pre tavares i think its definitely better to have Matthews Eichel.

Eichel goes number 2, Marns number 3 for sure.

 

[Sun God Nika]

2nd ainec. I see you leaf fans with the “marner is closing in tho” rhetoric

 

[bert]

I think he still goes 2nd, but Marner is gaining steam. It could change. Arguing Aho and Barzal right now is a bit absurd.

How you can argue Marner and not Aho and Barzal is a bit absurd.

 

[Cotton]

How you can argue Marner and not Aho and Barzal is a bit absurd.

Mentioning Barzal with Aho and Marner is a bit absurd too.

 

[Master P]

"lopsided result"

 

[Critical13]

I would still take him 2nd.

Chabot, Connor, Marner, Aho and Barzal are all gaining ground, though.

 

[UConn126]

Probably 3rd, I think Zach Senyshen has proved he should've been drafted higher, likely at #2.

 

[Regal]

How you can argue Marner and not Aho and Barzal is a bit absurd.

No, because he's shown a higher level than those two, and his play so far this year compares favorably to Eichel's best.

 

[Critical13]

2nd ainec. I see you leaf fans with the “marner is closing in tho” rhetoric

"rhetoric"

 

[smitty10]

Of the 20 non-2015 drafts between 2000 and 2020, which 11 would Marner be a 1st overall pick in?

Ah, of course you choose to turn this into an argument over a Leafs player.

I don't think there's a more obsessed hater on these boards of any team. It's embarrassing. Everything you post is anti-Leafs. Focus on the team you like that won't play Toronto this year.

 

[Wierzbowski426]

lopsided result, time for this to be closed.

 

[bert]

Mentioning Barzal with Aho and Marner is a bit absurd too.

No, because he's shown a higher level than those two, and his play so far this year compares favorably to Eichel's best.

Marner is a winger playing with the best goal scorer in hockey. Let's not pretend for a second Barzal and Aho are the same in that regard. Barzal and Aho have both shown their ability to raise their games in the playoffs too. Something marner has not.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Barzal and Aho have both shown their ability to raise their games in the playoffs too. Something marner has not.

That's not true at all. Marner is unquestionably a better player than both.

 

[Breakers]

The only place Eichel goes.................


is back to Boston University for another 3 years so he can hit free agency and avoid Buffalo at all costs.

 

[SotasicA]

2nd and it's not close. You'd be a fool to skip Eichel at second.

 

[Byron Bitz]

He might go 3rd, teams would take a real hard look at Marner at 2

 

[smitty10]

Marner is a winger playing with the best goal scorer in hockey. Let's not pretend for a second Barzal and Aho are the same in that regard. Barzal and Aho have both shown their ability to raise their games in the playoffs too. Something marner has not.

Marner has outscored them during the regular season (and much larger sample size) and has outscored Barzal in the playoffs. Let's also not pretend Marner isn't an all around player. Easily the Leafs most important penalty killer and defensive forward as well as the most creative player on the team. Sure, he plays with Matthews, but he also helped Tavares to his career high 47 goal season the one year he played with him too. When Marner was just 20. If you think Marner is some tag along, then you've clearly never watched him play. He's a very dynamic player who creates a ton of offense.

Career PPG regular season:
Marner - 1.01 PPG (324 points in 323 games)
Barzal - 0.88 PPG (225 points in 255 games)
Aho - 0.85 PPG (281 points in 331 games)

Career PPG post season:
Aho - 1.04 PPG (24 points in 23 games)
Marner - 0.84 PPG (21 points in 24 games)
Barzal - 0.80 PPG (24 points in 30 games)

 

[Notsince67]

How you can argue Marner and not Aho and Barzal is a bit absurd.

Maybe you should wait for them to crack better that 50 and 51st in the league for points this year before you call it absurd.

 

[Notsince67]

2nd and the only ones who disagree are Leaf fans

Marner plays with Matthews, and playing with an elite linemate means you're a passenger

Or you are carrying your own bags, driving the said elite player to a career year.

 

[All Mod Cons]

1st

 

[bert]

Maybe you should wait for them to crack better that 50 and 51st in the league for points this year before you call it absurd.

What a cherry pick be better.

 

[CanadienShark]

Still clearly #2.

 

[bert]

Marner has outscored them during the regular season (and much larger sample size) and has outscored Barzal in the playoffs. Let's also not pretend Marner isn't an all around player. Easily the Leafs most important penalty killer and defensive forward as well as the most creative player on the team. Sure, he plays with Matthews, but he also helped Tavares to his career high 47 goal season the one year he played with him too. When Marner was just 20. If you think Marner is some tag along, then you've clearly never watched him play. He's a very dynamic player who creates a ton of offense.

Career PPG regular season:
Marner - 1.01 PPG (324 points in 323 games)
Barzal - 0.88 PPG (225 points in 255 games)
Aho - 0.85 PPG (281 points in 331 games)

Career PPG post season:
Aho - 1.04 PPG (24 points in 23 games)
Marner - 0.84 PPG (21 points in 24 games)
Barzal - 0.80 PPG (24 points in 30 games)

If you think playing with Matthews in the leafs system is the same as what Aho and Barzal are doing that's terrific. It's not accurate.

All I read in every thread from leaf fans is how much more important centers are than wingers. But when it's convenient the argument switches. It's fine to cheer for your team and be happy about Marner he is an amazing player. However you clearly can't be objective here. They are all the same class of player. Marner is not in a different tier.

That's not true at all. Marner is unquestionably a better player than both.

No he isn't watch another team than the leafs.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Or you are carrying your own bags, driving the said elite player to a career year.

Nope if the league MVP Leon Draisaitl is a passenger as per the leafs fan base then that means one of Marner/Matthews is a plug. Your choice.