Salary Cap: What will Hughes do with our 8.8M in cap space heading into the season?

[General Fanager]

1) I've never seen a team trade a bad contract for a 2nd or a decent prospect in the middle of the season.
2) If we sign a player to a 1 year deal this year that won't have any impact on our cap space for next summer's UFA day.
3) I've never seen a team get a decent prospect or pick to be the 2nd team to retain in a deal. I've only seen 4ths and 5ths be the compensation.

1 Who cares
2. It might change their draft ranking though.
3. again who cares.

There is no rush to make this team better, especially when you look at the remaining UFAs. The most recent years guys on this board (probably including you) were complaining about the lack of cap space and now you want to burn it for no apparent reason.

 

[26Mats]

1 Who cares
2. It might change their draft ranking though.
3. again who cares.

There is no rush to make this team better, especially when you look at the remaining UFAs. The most recent years guys on this board (probably including you) were complaining about the lack of cap space and now you want to burn it for no apparent reason.

not sure what you think you're talking about about most recent years guys...

Ok, I understand if you want to tank. That is a valid consideration...

singing players to one year deals doesn't affect our cap space moving forward, which is the only cap concern when you have cap space that you're not going to use in the current season.

 

[General Fanager]

not sure what you think you're talking about about most recent years guys...

Ok, I understand if you want to tank. That is a valid consideration...

singing players to one year deals doesn't affect our cap space moving forward, which is the only cap concern when you have cap space that you're not going to use in the current season.

Lots of guys on The Habs section of this site have complained for years about the lack of cap flexibility. Now they have it.

I do not want to tank. I just dont want them to hand out contracts for no reason.

Better for the young guys to play more anyways rather than sign older vets to 1 year deals.

I dont see any upside to signing anyone to a 1 year deal.....

 

[26Mats]

Lots of guys on The Habs section of this site have complained for years about the lack of cap flexibility. Now they have it.

I do not want to tank. I just dont want them to hand out contracts for no reason.

Better for the young guys to play more anyways rather than sign older vets to 1 year deals.

I dont see any upside to signing anyone to a 1 year deal.....

The upside is getting a draft pick or a prospect to add to our future core at the TDL for trading the player to a contender.

So far, we have gotten the following players from trading vets at the TDL:
- Hutson (via Kulak),
- Newhook (from Chiarot trade),
- Owen Beck or Mesar (from Toffoli trade),
- Heineman (from Toffoli trade),
- Barron (from Lehkonen trade),
- plus the Colorado 2nd is pending from the Lehkonen trade.

I want more!

 

[Sorinth]

The upside is getting a draft pick or a prospect to add to our future core at the TDL for trading the player to a contender.

So far, we have gotten the following players from trading vets at the TDL:
- Hutson (via Kulak),
- Newhook (from Chiarot trade),
- Owen Beck or Mesar (from Toffoli trade),
- Heineman (from Toffoli trade),
- Barron (from Lehkonen trade),
- plus the Colorado 2nd is pending from the Lehkonen trade.

I want more!

And the downside is lack of development time in the NHL for the prospects we already have. Like if we go out and grab Dumba then Barron likely gets sent down. So sure we might get a pick/prospect at the TDL, but what's the point of getting a Barron from the Lehkonen trade if you don't give him a legitimate shot in the NHL after he's shown he's ready?

If picks/prospects are magic beans that could grow into anything, then as important as planting lots of beans so you have a better chance at something special is watering the ones you've already planted so that they can actually grow into something.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

He can give it to me.

 

[26Mats]

And the downside is lack of development time in the NHL for the prospects we already have. Like if we go out and grab Dumba then Barron likely gets sent down. So sure we might get a pick/prospect at the TDL, but what's the point of getting a Barron from the Lehkonen trade if you don't give him a legitimate shot in the NHL after he's shown he's ready?

If picks/prospects are magic beans that could grow into anything, then as important as planting lots of beans so you have a better chance at something special is watering the ones you've already planted so that they can actually grow into something.

It's the old expression: a player never spent too long in the American Hockey League.

Barron would be fine. It might even benefit him. And I'm a Barron fan who's looking forward to seeing what he can become, especially at age 25.

 

[BLONG7]

It's the old expression: a player never spent too long in the American Hockey League.

Barron would be fine. It might even benefit him. And I'm a Barron fan who's looking forward to seeing what he can become, especially at age 25.

Barron went down last year, and did benefit.
Don't think they do that again to him.............he was a good soldier.
I really think he has earned his spot....
Moves the puck well, and can skate................has to work on his D.

 

[Sorinth]

It's the old expression: a player never spent too long in the American Hockey League.

Barron would be fine. It might even benefit him. And I'm a Barron fan who's looking forward to seeing what he can become, especially at age 25.

Being an old expression doesn't make it true though.

 

[26Mats]

Barron went down last year, and did benefit.
Don't think they do that again to him.............he was a good soldier.
I really think he has earned his spot....
Moves the puck well, and can skate................has to work on his D.

We could always keep 8D up if need be.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Keep thinking Chi could use Hoffman as secondary scoring option. Gives help to Bedard on the PP. does Chi need a 4th line pker as well? Armia perhaps. Allen would be a good goalie for them as well. Damn I wish they’d take all of our junk.

There's always another solution!

 

[Notabaguette]

They're gonna sign a guy who couldn't get signed on a 1 year deal and trade him. Save the rest

 

[BLONG7]

We could always keep 8D up if need be.

And........as we know, freaking injuries are always going to happen to Dmen.
I really like where our D is headed.

 

[BaseballCoach]

There is no rush to make this team better, especially when you look at the remaining UFAs.

The only moves that might make sense are moves with short-term commitment, but with the possibility of renewing again for next year.

Sort of like the new Monahan deal for $2M.

Are any of the remaining UFAs out there, age 30 or under, willing to sign a one-year deal with the possibility of extending - because they really like the chemistry of the group we have, the way Monahan does?

Tarasenko does not strike me as that type of player.

Dumba probably not either, but I would kick the tires with both agents. They could also be TDL rental assets for us if either of them or a similar player were on an expiring deal.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

no need to rush to spend that money if we can get another Monahan deal then great if not we can sit on it during the season some team may randomly need cap for a trade or specially at deadline

 

[malcb33]

It's the old expression: a player never spent too long in the American Hockey League.

Barron would be fine. It might even benefit him. And I'm a Barron fan who's looking forward to seeing what he can become, especially at age 25.

Would you use that same old expression if Lefebvre was still the HC of the Rocket?

Getting Dumba on a 1-year deal to flip him at the deadline would be a great idea IMO, but Barron has earned his spot.

 

[DAChampion]

Would you use that same old expression if Lefebvre was still the HC of the Rocket?

Getting Dumba on a 1-year deal to flip him at the deadline would be a great idea IMO, but Barron has earned his spot.

If Barron, Mailloux, Hutson, and Reinbacher all have good years then Hughes could get a king's ransom for one of the first two.

 

[ZUKI]

reduce ticket price?

A fan can dream

No he can't

 

[ZUKI]

Lots of guys on The Habs section of this site have complained for years about the lack of cap flexibility. Now they have it.

I do not want to tank. I just dont want them to hand out contracts for no reason.

Better for the young guys to play more anyways rather than sign older vets to 1 year deals.

I dont see any upside to signing anyone to a 1 year deal.....

in fact, they were complaining because Bergevin at one point, had money to spend but didn't use it .Some also were bashing Molson to be a cheap owner that didn't want to spend all the money.
Then Bergevin spent the money and suddenly fans were complaining that we didn't have cap space because of him.

Now, if Hughes doesn't spend the money, he will be a moron and if he spends it, he is going to be moron, because there won't be cap space anymore.

No need to conclude

 

[26Mats]

Would you use that same old expression if Lefebvre was still the HC of the Rocket?

Getting Dumba on a 1-year deal to flip him at the deadline would be a great idea IMO, but Barron has earned his spot.

And who knows how good Dumba is. He might be on a decline and not get much at the TDL.

But man, I really like what Hughes has done with converting vets at the TDL. Barron himself was acquired in such a deal. So at most, i.e. if there are 0 injuries, 2/3 of one more season of Barron in the AHL or rotating from the press box could get us a full career of another Barron - if we could trade Dumba for a Barron level prospect.

 

[BaseballCoach]

And who knows how good Dumba is. He might be on a decline and not get much at the TDL.

But man, I really like what Hughes has done with converting vets at the TDL. Barron himself was acquired in such a deal. So at most, i.e. if there are 0 injuries, 2/3 of one more season of Barron in the AHL or rotating from the press box could get us a full career of another Barron - if we could trade Dumba for a Barron level prospect.

The vets we ice have to be hungry, happy to be here, and great role models for the youngsters.

I would only sign Dumba on a one-year deal where he would be very happy to extend like Monahan did.

Not interested in another Dadonov who just marked time until he could get to a contender.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Either: invest in cheap top 9 players with 1 year contract and try to sell them high if possible at the tdl

or

do nothing and weaponize it at the tdl by taking a 1 year bad contract from a contender for picks

 

[General Fanager]

The upside is getting a draft pick or a prospect to add to our future core at the TDL for trading the player to a contender.

So far, we have gotten the following players from trading vets at the TDL:
- Hutson (via Kulak),
- Newhook (from Chiarot trade),
- Owen Beck or Mesar (from Toffoli trade),
- Heineman (from Toffoli trade),
- Barron (from Lehkonen trade),
- plus the Colorado 2nd is pending from the Lehkonen trade.

I want more!

I see the point but getting a vet or two means less playing time for young guys so still a not a good idea. Id rather the young guys start to get more NHL ice time

 

[General Fanager]

in fact, they were complaining because Bergevin at one point, had money to spend but didn't use it .Some also were bashing Molson to be a cheap owner that didn't want to spend all the money.
Then Bergevin spent the money and suddenly fans were complaining that we didn't have cap space because of him.

Now, if Hughes doesn't spend the money, he will be a moron and if he spends it, he is going to be moron, because there won't be cap space anymore.

No need to conclude

Right,

No matter what they do people on here will complain as if they know best (including me)

 

[1909]

Ah whatever. $4.9M for two goalies this season, maybe $6.9 for one year and then Allen comes off the books.

As a combo, it's a fair price.