What to do with Barrie?
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If Dubas can trade Barrie for some defensive help that would be good
Polaris1010
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They should play him with Marincin.
Put Barrie and Marincin together as a pair. Figure out who's worse.
SmoggyTwinkles
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It's too bad "have Kadri back" isn't an option.
I just wonder about the whole thing. I wondered back then. We all thought he was a hot head, but I remember thinking "how is he still getting caught up in this shit? do the coaches not tell him he doesn't have to go head hunting?"
And I just wonder what he would have been like after Babcock got outed.
Sorry, can't help myself Kadri was my favourite player and Barrie is invisible for the most part.
I would trade Barrie.
Resign at 8m/per? You kidding? there's no way he's getting that now. He has not worked out here and it's damaged his earnings and it's damaged our depth big time.
But I will still blame it on unfair suspensions to Kadri (at least as far as length when it's in the playoffs) and bad refereeing. Yeah.
We should trade Barrie for something if someone will bite even if we're gonna make it.
I just wonder about the whole thing. I wondered back then. We all thought he was a hot head, but I remember thinking "how is he still getting caught up in this shit? do the coaches not tell him he doesn't have to go head hunting?"
And I just wonder what he would have been like after Babcock got outed.
Sorry, can't help myself Kadri was my favourite player and Barrie is invisible for the most part.
I would trade Barrie.
Resign at 8m/per? You kidding? there's no way he's getting that now. He has not worked out here and it's damaged his earnings and it's damaged our depth big time.
But I will still blame it on unfair suspensions to Kadri (at least as far as length when it's in the playoffs) and bad refereeing. Yeah.
We should trade Barrie for something if someone will bite even if we're gonna make it.
SmoggyTwinkles
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They might as well though. Let's see what we have internally, and see what the team can do under those circumstances. I bet there's an AHL guy that will make more of an impact than Barrie.
I still feel like we're on the Shannaplan and Dubas is also still on that train too.
Everyone keeps talking like this year is our window and I think that's absolute BS, it's the next decade. We can miss this year and not have to do a rebuild at all. Time is on the Leafs side with their core.
You are right but we have maybe 2-3 years left with Tavares making a difference. and we have Freddy and Rielly this year and next. That is why folks are pushing for improvements on our backend. We can score with anyone.
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I'm keeping him for the playoffs if I can.
Ppl need to take a step back here. Barrie didn't forget how he plays.
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ShaneFalco
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Yup. Could be a real weapon
And if Dubas adds at tthe deadline to the D, may not have to worry so much about his defensive warts
I still maintain that Barrie's offense doesn't fully compensate for his average/mediocre defense. I feel like he's a more offensively gifted Gardiner where he can play decent defense at times, but then make boneheaded decisions that often leads to good scoring chances and sometimes goals for the other team and I'm tired of having Dmen like that on the Leafs. Rielly is already kinda like that and I'd rather not have another and prefer we move Barrie out and bring in a guy who can just play some solid, mostly mistake free defense for 20-25 mins a night.
If I were GM of the Leafs, if someone is willing to offer a decent package for him then I move him without hesitation. Unless he was willing to take a reasonable contract, there's no way I would resign him because the risk is too great that he would become Shattenkirk 2.0 where you give a offensive Dman a big contract and then after a year or two you find out like the Rangers did that you made a mistake and then you either have to find someone to take him off your hands or buy him out.
I mean wasn't it mentioned that when Babcock was still around and Barrie was doing poorly that he was asking to be traded? Why not do just that and recoup what you can from a trade that didn't quite work out as well as you thought it would? I'd much rather do that then either resign him or lose him for nothing in the offseason.
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He is Jake Gardiner 2.0. Another guy where people will see what they want to see.
MyBudJT
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There is no comparison to Gardiner at all. Gardiner was significantly better defensively. Gardiner’s worst season defensively with the Leafs is better than Barrie’s best season defensively, ever.
I think Rielly can do everything Barrie can do. But if Rielly is out for season then yes. If he is coming back then Sandin can fill in fine in short term.
Clark4Ever
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On some teams, Barrie could be a vital missing piece on the blueline. There's no doubting his skill level.
Based on our current roster construct, I think we would be more balanced and better off if we replaced him with a defensive minded defenceman.
robertmac43
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The comparison was not to defensive ability, it was to the perception in Leafs land and the media. No matter what either Gards or Barrie does, most people have and had made up their mind on them.
Barrie is an effective D-men, people act as if the sky is falling though since we traded for him.
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Again, there is no comparison. Barrie is significantly worse than Gardiner... and really isn’t all that effective. Effective dmen do not get sheltered even more than your typical rookie
Barrie criticism has nothing to do with people having minds made up... he just ain’t good.
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I've been screaming to get rid of Gardiner for 4 years. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone that liked Jake less than I.
He's better than Barrie.
He's better than Barrie.
ULF_55
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Just make the team better.
If the team needs more offense go get more offense.
If the team needs better defense go get better defense.
If the team needs more offense go get more offense.
If the team needs better defense go get better defense.
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Gardiner is not good enough defensively to be significantly better defensively than anyone in the NHL.
I would still take Barrie overall to Gardiner any day of the week, and I do not even like Barrie all that much.
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lol, I’ll just post this here:
On top of this, Gardiner could actually be trusted on a PK.
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