Player Discussion What do we have in Micheal Ferland?

[LickTheEnvelope]

He's acquainted with J.T

 

[sting101]

Sorry fellas



"Sooner or later you start looking over your shoulder"

 

[bossram]

Correlation does not equal causation.

I know it's the hfboards meme that deterrence doesn't exist, but it does. What seems to be mistaken for 'proof' that deterrence doesn't exist is examples of times where it was proven that the relationship between deterrence and injury/hit prevention is 1-to-1, which nobody claims.

Has nobody here played like a decently high level of contact hockey? Remember the difference when you had deterrents on your team and when you didn't?

Yah. We just had worse teams.

Everyone likes a team where everyone sticks up for each other. "Deterrents" just go out and rough up the other teams' designated players after the fact.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Sure. Kassian scored at a 40 point pace during his time on the top line, and McDavid and Draisaitl were each scoring at a 150 point pace.

Hmm, so no need to upgrade the wings then, got it.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Hmm, so no need to upgrade the wings then, got it.

Way to put words in my mouth, buddy. I said Kassian was a good fit with McDavid, not that our wingers don't need improvement.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Yah. We just had worse teams.

Everyone likes a team where everyone sticks up for each other. "Deterrents" just go out and rough up the other teams' designated players after the fact.

But that's the value of the Tom Wilsons and the Michael Ferlands. They aren't just designated toughs who have no outcome on the game. They can play with skill guys so that they are out there when these things happen.

 

[Shareefruck]

But that's the value of the Tom Wilsons and the Michael Ferlands. They aren't just designated toughs who have no outcome on the game. They can play with skill guys so that they are out there when these things happen.

It's more about having an answer than it is about actual deterrence. If you have a choice between sitting there and taking it and fighting back, it's probably less demoralizing for someone to do the latter. I can see the argument for it being psychologically advantageous and creating a bit of confidence boosting resilience, maybe (although I would argue that tenacious energy without the physical prowess probably accomplishes the exact same thing).

The idea of it actually protecting star players by making other teams more hesitant to target them is nonsense, though.

 

[MS]

But that's the value of the Tom Wilsons and the Michael Ferlands. They aren't just designated toughs who have no outcome on the game. They can play with skill guys so that they are out there when these things happen.

Gudbranson was constantly put with the Pettersson line to shelter him. He was out there when things happened. It didn't matter.

 

[bossram]

But that's the value of the Tom Wilsons and the Michael Ferlands. They aren't just designated toughs who have no outcome on the game. They can play with skill guys so that they are out there when these things happen.

Exactly. The point of those types of players is that they're effective at playing hockey. Not some non-existent "protection" factor.

 

[HankNDank]

So anyone heard the extent of how long he will be out?

 

[Siludin]

So anyone heard the extent of how long he will be out?

At least a couple of games