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Player Discussion What do we have in Micheal Ferland?
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Or they could read and see some of the stupid pointless hate and comment on it. On a message board. Made for comments.
I am actually happy with the depth right now compared to other teams. I am just curious how the salary cap situation will work out, and I will reserve judgment on that until I see how it works out.
Canucks had 81 points while dealing with a ton of injuries throughout the season. They replaced Gudbranson, Pouliot, Hutton, Granlund, Schaller with... Myers, Hughes, Benn, J.T. Miller, Leivo and Ferland. Gaudette and a healthy Boeser should also be better. If the Canucks get solid goaltending and avoid catastrophic injuries, especially on the back end, they should make the playoffs. Benning made some bold additions, if the Canucks miss the playoffs it’s bye bye Benning, win-win either way.
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I feel very confident in our goaltending next season .. Divsional rivals Calgary and Edmonton can't find any continuity in goal.
Pettersson got manhandled a lot out there this last season. The fans were letting the Canucks know they didn't like that, and that they needed someone that would make teams scared to run him. This signing makes a lot of sense with that in mind, and also knowing that Rousell is still hurt.
Really happy to have Ferland on the team.
Really happy to have Ferland on the team.
Ferland seems to be a player that truly plays harder when the playoffs start. Obviously 2015 he dominated us, but even with Carolina he was playing a similar style to 2015 but injured himself hitting Tom Wilson. I didn't watch much of Carolina in the regular season, but in the playoffs I saw a similar player to 2015.
People are out to lunch if they think he's declining or his body is wearing down. If he has a bad year it won't be because he is fragile. Virtanen, Boeser have worse injury history than Ferland. He's 3 years older than Horvat and Horvat plays hard so is he done in 3 years? I've seen the same said about Roussel which is also wrong.
People are out to lunch if they think he's declining or his body is wearing down. If he has a bad year it won't be because he is fragile. Virtanen, Boeser have worse injury history than Ferland. He's 3 years older than Horvat and Horvat plays hard so is he done in 3 years? I've seen the same said about Roussel which is also wrong.
The roster is pretty decent. Maybe above average forwards but defense is still subpar due to lack of legit top-pairing D-men and as much as I like Markstrom he's not better than most starters and Demko is unproven. At best we're a bubble team, but maybe we get some big step forwards from the young ones - at least, the potential for progress outweighs likely regression.
But I don't think we're better than many teams in the West. Above Wild/Ducks/Kings probably, but Blues/Preds/Knights/Stars are definitively better and Sharks/Jets/Coyotes/Flames seem stronger on paper. And everyone else can just as well; never know with the likes of McDavid or Patty Kane. It'll still be an uphill battle to make the playoffs.
But I don't think we're better than many teams in the West. Above Wild/Ducks/Kings probably, but Blues/Preds/Knights/Stars are definitively better and Sharks/Jets/Coyotes/Flames seem stronger on paper. And everyone else can just as well; never know with the likes of McDavid or Patty Kane. It'll still be an uphill battle to make the playoffs.
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A big "heavy" crash and bang Top-9 winger who is probably a 15-20G, 30-40pt guy if he stays healthy. He's not really that true Top-6 Power Forward you ideally want, but he's got enough skill to at least play there and pick up some points while providing a physical presence when you need it. He'll get his Top-6 minutes here, 5v5 at least. Shouldn't hurt to have a guy who can help make a bit of space for someone like Pettersson.
At worst, he's a physical bottom-6 winger with at least a modicum of scoring touch, which is what you want there. Albeit, if he doesn't find some Top-6 minutes, he'll probably struggle to produce up to his contract. But i think it's a pretty safe assumption he'll get at least some opportunities there, where if you figure roughly 10pts = $1M salary, if he's in that 35pts ballpark, that's pretty on par with "value". Especially with the "intangibles" like physicality and sticking up for teammates that he brings to the table.
At worst, he's a physical bottom-6 winger with at least a modicum of scoring touch, which is what you want there. Albeit, if he doesn't find some Top-6 minutes, he'll probably struggle to produce up to his contract. But i think it's a pretty safe assumption he'll get at least some opportunities there, where if you figure roughly 10pts = $1M salary, if he's in that 35pts ballpark, that's pretty on par with "value". Especially with the "intangibles" like physicality and sticking up for teammates that he brings to the table.
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Calgary hasn't consistent goaltending since Kipprusoff retired.
Edmonton has been trying to find a goaltender for years, they got a decent run with Roloson but who was their last 'great' goaltender..Salo? Cujo?
Interesting piece that sheds some light on who exactly Michael Ferland is Micheal Ferland opens up on drinking, sobriety and the path forward - Sportsnet.ca
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I’m not sure how confident you can be in our goaltending who between both of them have about half of a good season. I like Demko for the future, but next year is still a huge question mark.
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You make a good point, but I think the intimidation factor is still alive and well. A few years ago for instance, Scott Hartnell basically made Troy Stecher smell his armpit much to the amusement of his teammates while we sat there and watched. Thankfully, since the refs were there, Stecher wasn’t forced to at an eggroll of sorts either.
Absolutely no one would be pulling that BS with teams like Boston or Philly. Or the 1994 Canucks. After such a long time, the Canucks finally have a tough team that won’t be pushed around or bullied. This is a tough Canucks team that we’re looking at.
We have an elite-level power forward in the first few months of the season and an elite-level invisible forward in the latter half of the season. 
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Sure. Kassian scored at a 40 point pace during his time on the top line, and McDavid and Draisaitl were each scoring at a 150 point pace.
clunk
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And when Tampa bay wins next season, he's going to go for short, skilled players.
The guy can't make a plan and stick to it. Always has to try and replicate the latest cup winner (doing a horrible job at it)
I still have no ****ing clue what the identity of this team is.
MarkusNaslund19
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Correlation does not equal causation.
I know it's the hfboards meme that deterrence doesn't exist, but it does. What seems to be mistaken for 'proof' that deterrence doesn't exist is examples of times where it was proven that the relationship between deterrence and injury/hit prevention is 1-to-1, which nobody claims.
Has nobody here played like a decently high level of contact hockey? Remember the difference when you had deterrents on your team and when you didn't?
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There is no formula to win the SC..I think the Blues just proved that..You need a mix of everything..Making a concrete plan, would be be counter productive..The league is fluid..It changes year to year...Go with what ya got.
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That's the problem, though. Every year after the SCF he makes comments like 'look at the size they won with' or 'the fast skilled guys were the difference maker' or w/e, and makes moves or drafts based on that.
I don't think the league is as fluid as you think, at least not as often. I would just like a plan. Team identity does matter. The Blues were seen as a hard working, two way team and they made the most of that. The Hurricanes rallied around the 'Storm Surge' and each player bought in and excelled. The Bruins and Kings were the big, menacing, in your face teams and they feasted on that reputation. The Hawks were the opportunistic, fast transition powerhouse. The Penguins were the pure skill team... etc.
I think there is a formula to winning the cup, and part of that formula is actually having an identity to start with. Pick a playstyle and bring in the players suited to that playstyle.
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Literally years of 5 AM practices. Surviving cut after cut at every level. Not to mention the, ahem, "personalities" of these guys - that has a lot of different meanings, but it all adds up to the same thing.
In today's game there is nobody who is so much of a physical presence, and not even a team presence that they will outweigh what these guys will do to stay in this league. You call those guys "soldiers" for a reason, they go out and do what they're told or what they know is expected of them. Players know their time is short. At the end of the day, they don't give a f***. If it gets them one more second in the league, they will do it. That's always included being right on the edge with the other team's best players.
You're also conveniently leaving out games where the first fight just leads to a continually escalating situation that just spirals out of control.
Deterrence doesn't exist. Even in the old days it was more of an arms race until both teams were decimated as opposed to something that prevented any shenanigans in the first place.
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By the way Benning should be fired.
I still Dont think the Canucks are better than St Louis, Dallas, Nashville, Colorado, Calgary, Vegas, San José .
Arizona was better than the Canucks last year, when that had a ridicoulus amount of injuries since then they added Kessel.
Winnipeg is hard to know where they are.
Anaheim, LA, Minnesota, Edmonton is probably worse than the Canucks, but Anaheim has a great goalie and will probably be right there with the Canucks.
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About what we hoped Kassian would turn out to be. Rare moment where I actually like something Benning did.
I'm not a huge fan of Ferland. Having said that he is better than any other winger the team has played in the bottom 6 and some in the top 6 the past few season. However, he is a 12-14 minute a night forward (which coincidentally is the time he got in Carolina). He isn't a guy that you want as a fixture on an offensive line because he just isn't good enough to be in that roll long term. Put him in the bottom 6 with some PP time here and there and you have a useable player. No PP time and you have a Brock McGinn that can't kill penalties but does fight. I have a feeling no one would be that excited over Brock McGinn. I don't get excited over someone that will spend 200 minutes in the penalty box and still can't believe that people think "deterrent" is a thing. It's another player that I just don't think really moves the needle. And it appears as though they gave him a NMC. He is definitely not a player you give a NMC to.
I think people underestimate the amount of improvement an 80 point team needs to have to get into the playoffs in a normal year (i.e. when you need 95 points). And the summer isn't over. They have bodies they need to move out because somehow the worst team over the past 4 years is in cap trouble, they have many "can they stay healthy" questions and still very limited depth.
Now I will say kudos to him for getting his life back on track (and kudos to Hartley for really helping him). Still not excited over the contract.
I think people underestimate the amount of improvement an 80 point team needs to have to get into the playoffs in a normal year (i.e. when you need 95 points). And the summer isn't over. They have bodies they need to move out because somehow the worst team over the past 4 years is in cap trouble, they have many "can they stay healthy" questions and still very limited depth.
Now I will say kudos to him for getting his life back on track (and kudos to Hartley for really helping him). Still not excited over the contract.
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I don’t think his play style is a deterrent for the other team as much as it is a fire starter for ours. He’s got jam. Think Horvat, Stecher, Roussel. These guys drag you into the battle.
I actually think his play style may raise the intensity in games leading to a more hostile environment and possibly more injuries. The thing is those kinds of games bring the team closer together and gets the guys playing for each other. Less ‘Little Things’ Louis Eriksson and more ‘Big ole Give a Shit Meter’ Micheal Ferland.
I actually think his play style may raise the intensity in games leading to a more hostile environment and possibly more injuries. The thing is those kinds of games bring the team closer together and gets the guys playing for each other. Less ‘Little Things’ Louis Eriksson and more ‘Big ole Give a Shit Meter’ Micheal Ferland.
