What are flyers really lacking?

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Flyers' started by MacDonald4MVP, Jan 8, 2019.

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Select 5 most important ones.

  1. Top6 sniper/goal scorer/shoot first player

    47.1%
  2. NHL level coaching

    75.0%
  3. Top4 RHD

    23.1%
  4. Top4 shut down D

    19.2%
  5. Out with bad vets

    46.2%
  6. NHL level Starter

    41.3%
  7. NHL level backup

    7.7%
  8. 2C

    20.2%
  9. 3C

    9.6%
  10. Snot and balls/juevos/grit

    15.4%
  11. Bigger role for young players as opposed to established guys

    30.8%
  12. More speed

    46.2%
  13. Clear direction/vision for the team

    26.0%
  14. Q behind the bench

    12.5%
  15. 1C

    3.8%
  16. 1D

    14.4%
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  1. bennysflyers16

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    These two things go hand-in-hand, of course, and hopefully Fletch is true to his word that he wants to "build something like Tampa" (bigtime paraphrase). I'd rather have a Keefe than a Q, but I understand both positions and wouldn't begrudge them hiring a good vet coach. It's all about establishing that organizational philosophy and hiring the right coach to suit it, then assembling the players to fit. We can only hope and pray that the plan is meteor-proof - I don't want any more dinosaur bull****.

    Hopefully we can find some suckers to take Andrew and ****ing Dale off our hands soon so we can call up Myers and NAK, with Simmer blasted out at the trade deadline and the Pimp up here sometime in the next little while.
     
  3. baudib1

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    1. Coaching

    I'd trade Farabee for Cooper or Sullivan

    2. add a top 6 winger

    3. reasonable development by the young guys

    4. a year of normal luck
     
  4. Flyersfan1493

    Flyersfan1493 Formerly Go For It

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    Better goal song

    Opportunity to actually hear better goal song
     
  5. BringBackBerube

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    An organizational philosophy
     
  6. Beef Invictus

    Beef Invictus Meat Overlord

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    Yeah, it's this. deficient coaching impacts everything from net up to the forwards, and special teams. The one-two punch of Berube/Hakstol was brutal, and that Gordon (another deficient coach) can be an upgrade on them in any way is awful. We talk about our woes with finding goalies, but we have been much worse at coaches.
     
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  7. Hockeypete49

    Hockeypete49 How you like me now!

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    This team will need a head coach for the up coming season.
    A reliable #2 tender to back Hart
    My core on the big club for next year is:
    Hart
    Provorov
    Konecny
    Patrick
    Sanheim
    I do have a soft spot for Couts, Hagg and Laughton.
    This has to be the softest Flyer team I have seen since the very early 70's. Bobby Clarke most likely has to be restrained from going into the locker room and reading them the riot act. Really sad right now.
     
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  8. bennysflyers16

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    Havent won a playoff game since we got rid of "DOOP"
     
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    Testosterone
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    Heart
    Passion
    Patience
    Alpha Mentality
    Ill Humor
    Grit
    Vision
    Purpose
     
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    1. Joel Quenneville + coaching team
    2. Myers, NAK, Pimp on the big team.
    3. Andrew Macdonald fired into the sun, or Florida, what ever is easier.
     
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    Coaching Staff
    Veteran backup for Hart
    Quality Middle-6 Center
    Quality Middle-6 winger with speed that can drive play
    Experienced top 4 RHD.
     
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    Shoot-first top 6 winger
    Steady goaltender that can tandem with Hart in short term
    Middle 6 center
    Top 4 RHD
     
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    The organization needs an identity and a plan, because they have neither and haven't for quite some time.
     
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    Outlaw Samurai FROST WARNING in effect Sponsor

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    Quality coachs>>>>>>>>>>>everything else.

    As has been mentioned already, this would help:

    No AMac
    Promote Myers/Morin/NAK
    Try out Pimp and Friedman to see what we have in them
    Better goalie for tandem with Hart
    Top 6 scoring wing
    Moar Taryn!
    Moar Gritty!
     
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    Gudas is a bottom-pair D.
     
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    Laveuglette Le meilleur receveur de passes de tous les temps

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    Right now the problem is more profound than this. How bad they really are, isn't as bad as how they are currently playing. The problem is that both GM and coach have been fired recently, and some changes are expected. Nobody knows where they will be in one month. It is probably very chaotic for them. This season is over already. We're not making the playoffs. There will be some moves, but hopefully no panic. In a more stable context, they would play much better. I wouldn't ruin the core. I'm fine with trading Simmonds for the right value, and perhaps Voracek but the value would need to be very high and NHL ready. Otherwise, keep him. Then look for a good goalie and a coach this summer (I believe Q is coming here). Next season will be very different.

    Please do not touch Giroux and Couturier. They aren't the problem.

    We have a lot of talent on this team, it's simply that everything is a mess right now and all players are playing anxious.
     
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    FlyTimmo Shut up about it

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    Speed, hands, snipers, coaching, goaltending, offensive depth, defensive depth, Jack Hughes.
     
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    Sure, Hak.
     
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    He's not talented enough to be a top 4 defender on any serious NHL team. Oh... actually you have a point. Maybe he can play in the top 4 for the Flyers.
     
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    i dont see 1c or 1d as options.

    edit: Thank you
     
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    1. The top thing is a competent coach and staff to implement a sensible scheme of play.
    2. Scoring ability
    3. Speed
    4. Size/grit (Morin and Myers should help in this area)
     
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    In my view this team lacks CHARACTER ! This team has no REAL ass kicker who will show the rest of the club how to go full tilt every shift . TK is about as close as we got to someone who sells it hard every shift , hustles , and gets after it . This team has more floaters than a city cesspool . And certainly we got to have serviceable reliable netminding . Folks can blame Hakstol , Lavy , Berube blah blah blah till the cows come home , but until this club gets a leader in the room who will not take any shi$ and call folks out , expect more of the same . Roo is a fine player etc , but i think we need a more Physical leader with a bit more GRUFF .
     
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    Speed speed speed speed and speed.

    Young players can provide it. So all the option that remove bad old vets and gives bigger roles to young guys are what I voted for.

    More Konecny, Patrick, Frost, Sanheim, Ghost, Provorov, Myers, Laughton, Weal. Less Weise, Raffl, Simmonds, Lehtera, Macdonald, Folin etc.
     
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    Add a quality headcoach who picks his assistants

    Do 1 real hockey trade that brings back a Veteran leader that can play (doesn't even matter if top-4 D or top-6 winger)

    Get rid of players on expiring contracts and dead weight (Mac Donald)
     
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    They don't make Mark Messier's anymore....
     

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