NFL GDT: Week 18

[GKJ]

Carr just twisted the knife in lol

He also said they were playing to win. But it allowed them to run a different play.

 

[TheAngryHank]

They play the Chiefs in the playoffs.

To get annihilated

 

[StreetHawk]

Well he made damn sure to eliminate his own team from the playoffs with that ridiculous TO. Coach of the year right there

Regardless of him taking that TO, raiders were going to give the ball to Jacobs and see what the result was. Get nothing. Either let the clock expire or Punt. There was probably a number of yards where they drain the clock and try a FG with 2 seconds to go. There was 4 seconds on the ply clock when LAC called the TO and 38 seconds on the clock. 4 seconds not changing anything.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Carr just twisted the knife in lol

Woooow Staley

 

[StreetHawk]

He also said they were playing to win. But it allowed them to run a different play.

They were definitely running the ball. Not passing it.

 

[TheAngryHank]

The yinzers are just happy to keep making the playoffs

they don't care if they lose

very low standards in pittsburgh...

The standard is the standard

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

I don't know why the Chargers wouldn't try to win the game with 5:30 minutes left. I don't know by which math they can run down the clock to zero from there without getting a 1st down.

 

[sabremike]

The chargers franchise should just move back to San Diego where they belong and Dean Spanos should be tossed to a group of hungry sharks in the Pacific

As the kids say: FTFY

 

[Cush]

 

[TheHudlinator]

I don't know why the Chargers wouldn't try to win the game with 5:30 minutes left. I don't know by which math they can run down the clock to zero from there without getting a 1st down.

You can get a first down running the ball continuing to kill clock tho

 

[GKJ]

They were definitely running the ball. Not passing it.

It was still a different play. And they knew a run was coming and couldn’t stop it.

 

[StreetHawk]

That’s why the prisoner’s dilemma question ends with both people confessing. Don’t trust the other side. At that point LV not in a position to lose the game.

47 of the Raiders is the long snapper. So he would be ready to go into the game on 4th down if they weren’t going to run out the clock.

I doubt that’s a pro lip reader? Maybe it was would you try a long one? Who knows…. Jacobs ripping off a 9 yard run gave Carlson a legit shot of hitting it.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

I have watched this clip 5 times and I don't think the Charger said this.

 

[dahrougem2]

Call me crazy but I think the Raiders send out the kicking team on 4th down if the Chargers stop them on the 3rd down run to attempt a long field goal. I think all along the Raiders were going for the win.

Still idiotic for Staley to call that timeout.

 

[Live in the Now]

f*** the Chargers. Don't play for ties. Nice to watch winning football for once.

 

[StreetHawk]

Call me crazy but I think the Raiders send out the kicking team on 4th down if the Chargers stop them on the 3rd down run to attempt a long field goal. I think all along the Raiders were going for the win.

Still idiotic for Staley to call that timeout.

Not from that far out. Like 55 yards. Cause to get the distance the K May end up with a lower trajectory. Which could lead to a block.

not going to attempt it if LAC called their last timeout with 25 seconds left. Would just punt it and watch LA take a knee.

 

[dahrougem2]

Not from that far out. Like 55 yards. Cause to get the distance the K May end up with a lower trajectory. Which could lead to a block.

not going to attempt it if LAC called their last timeout with 25 seconds left. Would just punt it and watch LA take a knee.

Thing is if the Chargers don't call timeout on 3rd down, I doubt they call timeout on 4th down if they somewhat stop Jacobs. The kick would be a shot-in-the-dark attempt at winning.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Call me crazy but I think the Raiders send out the kicking team on 4th down if the Chargers stop them on the 3rd down run to attempt a long field goal. I think all along the Raiders were going for the win.

Still idiotic for Staley to call that timeout.

I don't know how the timeout really makes a difference in terms of whether the Chargers stop the Raiders there. If the Chargers don't call the TO the Raiders would quite possibly also converted the 3rd down to put them into a similar position with 1st down in FG range. Yes there would have been less time left on the clock, but it's not like the Raiders didn't have a TO to stop the clock to kick the FG there.

The whole premise is basically that the Raiders took a timeout by the opposing team personally and then based their entire approach on that 'disrespect' rather than on a desire to avoid Kansas City in the playoffs and send a division rival to the golf course.

 

[summer tooth]

That timeout was so dumb even the announcers were baffled. The best they could've hoped for at that point was a tie, and they did something that made it more likely they lose.

 

[Canada4Gold]

The Chargers coach doesn't know what the Raiders are going to do, let the clock run out, or get as many yards as they can and kick the FG. So he lets the game clock get inside 40 seconds so the Raiders still have the option to let the clock run out, then for whatever reason he felt his best chance at stopping the Raiders' next play was to call a timeout. Whether that was to give some guys some rest, or he didn't like his defensive setup.

What devious intentions could he have to call timeout with 4 seconds left on the play clock rather than call it as soon as the last play ended with like 1:13 on the clock or something? He's not hoping to stop the Raiders and get either a punt or a missed FG and need either 90 yards for a TD(after a punt), or 35 for a FG(after a missed FG) in 30 seconds when he could have had 70 seconds by calling the same timeout earlier. All to try to win to make the playoffs when they could do nothing and make the playoffs.

Whether the Raiders thought there were devious intentions from the timeout and that changed their strategy is another question but they shouldn't have. There's no devious reason to call the timeout when the Chargers did. The Raiders were likely going to run the ball, get as many yards as they could get and then kick the FG as a win they get to face Cincinnati instead of the Chiefs who have wrecked them twice this season.

 

[GKJ]

That timeout was so dumb even the announcers were baffled. The best they could've hoped for at that point was a tie, and they did something that made it more likely they lose.

They force a punt, anything can happen.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I saw that. Why I thought that time out was too cheeky

 

[StreetHawk]

The Chargers coach doesn't know what the Raiders are going to do, let the clock run out, or get as many yards as they can and kick the FG. So he lets the game clock get inside 40 seconds so the Raiders still have the option to let the clock run out, then for whatever reason he felt his best chance at stopping the Raiders' next play was to call a timeout. Whether that was to give some guys some rest, or he didn't like his defensive setup.

What devious intentions could he have to call timeout with 4 seconds left on the play clock rather than call it as soon as the last play ended with like 1:13 on the clock or something? He's not hoping to stop the Raiders and get either a punt or a missed FG and need either 90 yards for a TD(after a punt), or 35 for a FG(after a missed FG) in 30 seconds when he could have had 70 seconds by calling the same timeout earlier. All to try to win to make the playoffs when they could do nothing and make the playoffs.

Whether the Raiders thought there were devious intentions from the timeout and that changed their strategy is another question but they shouldn't have. There's no devious reason to call the timeout when the Chargers did. The Raiders were likely going to run the ball, get as many yards as they could get and then kick the FG as a win they get to face Cincinnati instead of the Chiefs who have wrecked them twice this season.

I agree. The goal was to leave 25 seconds left in the event the raiders thought about a FG. If they missed then the chargers have the ball around their own 40 if they prevent Jacobs from getting a first down.

that risk would likely force the raiders to punt. Cole would likely be given orders to kick it out of the end zone. Or sky it as high as possible to eliminate a chance of a return. Or kick it out of bounds.

when LA got the ball they’d just take a knee since the raiders can’t get the ball back with 2 TO and 20 seconds to go.

even as a raiders fan I kind of was hoping that Jacobs got stuffed and the tie was preserved.

 

[DoyleG]

 

[GKJ]