GDT: Wed Sep. 13: NYI at Flyers' rookie game, 7:00 pm ET; Final: 4-3 OT loss

[Rebels57]

Patrick's vision and IQ are just too good for him not to be a 1A/1B centerman. Whenever he got the puck he did something good with it. Unfortunately, he just didn't get the puck enough.

Lindblom felt a touch quiet after a strong 1st.

Morin was a beast. He still needs to pick his moments a touch better when he goes for those big hits, but he has all the potential to be a great defenseman for us.

Unfortunately, Sanheim/Myers had weaker games.

You can't really make too many conclusions on what was basically a scrimmage. But, it was nice to finally see the group together.

Well said.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I, for one, am outraged by what I saw tonight.

These guys should be in mid-season form by now, but all I saw was rust and sloppy play. It's as if they haven't played together before.... as if these lines got thrown together a week ago.

This team has been together for years now and this is all the chemistry they have? Seriously?

Can't believe this is how they play when they know Hextall is watching and deciding opening night lineups based on this single game. They blew their only chance. Honestly, we need to blow it up and start rebuilding this rebuild because this crop of prospects aren't going to pan out.

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on a more serious note, chemistry issues and sloppiness is to be expected in a game like this.
Sorry we didnt get that 12-0 win with Patrick, Lindblom and Sanheim netting hat tricks

 

[TheKingPin]

Well I get that there is no chemistry and there is a ton of rust, but the isles had the same. I think we all expected more of a complete game from Sanhiem. Either it's nerves or he's just not ready yet. I could see a guy like him reverting to bad habits in a first game like this.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

it is one game. it was a rookie scrimmage. would of been nice if more of the kids played a better game, but it is not the end of the world.
Sanheim will be fine.

 

[Curufinwe]

Sanheim will be fine, but will he make the team out of training camp or go back to the AHL? I think that's the biggest question about the roster over the next three weeks.

 

[Alchemy]

Sanheim will be fine, but will he make the team out of training camp or go back to the AHL? I think that's the biggest question about the roster over the next three weeks.

I feel like the best case scenario for him is to go back to the AHL and be the teams top defenseman. Unless he comes into camp and makes the team better he should stay but if he has his ups and downs throughout camp he needs more seasoning.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I say they should send him down to Reading after last night.

 

[Striiker]

I feel like the best case scenario for him is to go back to the AHL and be the teams top defenseman. Unless he comes into camp and makes the team better he should stay but if he has his ups and downs throughout camp he needs more seasoning.

He already did that.

 

[deadhead]

I think the issue for Sanheim is to understand he's not going to make the team in TC by outplaying everyone (i.e., trying too hard to stand out) but by showing he has mastered the fundamentals of the position (i.e. the coach can trust him not to screw up).

Provorov - Gudas
Morin - Ghost
Sanheim, Hagg, McDonald, Manning.

So he'd be viewed as a 3rd pair D-man his rookie year, and no coach wants a third pair D-man who is mistake prone (wants, if Manning makes the team it's because a rookie failed to shove him to the sidelines).

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I have not seen Sanheim play as much as others. But I guess it is fair to ask. Does he have anything to gain by going back to LV? If he makes the team we ae obviously going to have to live with his ups and downs as a young NHL defenseman. Even Provorov had to learn that. Well early on anyway.

 

[Hurricane28]

I have not seen Sanheim play as much as others. But I guess it is fair to ask. Does he have anything to gain by going back to LV? If he makes the team we ae obviously going to have to live with his ups and downs as a young NHL defenseman. Even Provorov had to learn that. Well early on anyway.

He might in terms of defensive zone coverage, however I only watched the games televised of the Phantoms and was there last night where I thought he was shaky in the defensive zone but his offensive IQ was much better than I expected.

 

[Stizzle]

I was in the building last night. A few thoughts...

I thought Vorobyev was our best player. Such a composed, natural playmaker. The Kosorenkov love is a little surprising to me. He carried the puck with speed a few times to gain zone entries. Other than that, I thought that line was pretty much the Pimp Daddy Vorobyev show.

Patrick really got going in the 2nd and 3rd. He and Bunny created a lot of chances. I didn't think Sushko added much to that line. Bunny just needed to bury one last night.

Ratcliffe had a couple good moments, but I also saw him lose some board battles he should have won. Frost was as advertised. Smart and fast. The 3rd goal against was on Strome. He did not hustle back to rub out his man.

Lindblom was Lindblom. I thought that 1st goal was his. Just credited incorrectly. Laberge was not good. He still showed an unwillingness to battle for pucks. Rubtsov was just ok. He did draw a penalty when he got behind the D. His faceoffs still need work.

Morin was the standout D imo. Friedman was also good, but did have a few lapses. His speed is very evident.

Carter Hart must have been having flashbacks to the WJC. That's the 2nd game he would have won if only Myers would have not been hurt.

Lastly, Scott Gordon is still a bum.

 

[Curufinwe]

I've seen people say Strome looked much slower than anyone else. Did you think that in person?

 

[Stizzle]

I've seen people say Strome looked much slower than anyone else. Did you think that in person?

I didn't think it was overtly glaring that he was the slowest. On the 3rd goal against it looked to me that he just didn't hustle back to take his man. I could easily be wrong. Maybe he was hustling and his skating is really just that bad.

 

[Mayo Masseuse]

I was very impressed with Rubstov. Even with the language/culture shock over the past few months, he did not look out of place.

I think an argument could be made to bring him to the AHL and bypass juniors. But if he hit a wall I suppose it would be bad news bears.

There should be no question that Morin gets one of the D call ups.
And whoop-dee-doo Sanheim didn't look strong. Give him the year down in the AHL and let him refine his skill sets. Follow the path that has been laid for Morin and Hagg. It may even be a good thing, we only have 2 spots anyway.
I will admit Myers' injury record is a bit alarming, but if I am not mistaken most of them are head (****) injuries.

NoPat looked dangerous with the puck everytime he had it. I am excite.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Didn't get to watch the game.

Disappointed to read the lackluster Sanheim reports. Happy Vorobyev played well.

Not surprised Friedman impressed. He's been impressive every time I've seen him. He tends to get overlooked, I guess because he's fairly short, but he's got a lot of talent.

 

[Magua]

I've seen people say Strome looked much slower than anyone else. Did you think that in person?

Problem with Strome is good luck ever seeing him actually skate in stride. He moves around like a geriatric in a perpetual glide. Basically has no stride. I thought he looked as slow live as he did on last season's tape, but he doesn't move a lot anyway. Basically the only time you'll actually see him skate is when he puts his head down and desperation skates on the back-check.

Big guy that impressed me skating-wise was Bunnaman. I already thought his stride speed improved last year on tape, and he didn't disappoint live. Still could improve but hey.

whoop-dee-doo Sanheim

I will make a conscious effort to use this again.

 

[Curufinwe]

I think Gordon kept overlooking Friedman last spring because 6'3" Maxim Lamarche was in the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-vdMjdZXw&t=0m45s

 

[pit]

He already did that.

*gasp* Are you forgetting AHL Hall of Fame lock TJ Brennan?

 

[deadhead]

Big guy that impressed me skating-wise was Bunnaman. I already thought his stride speed improved last year on tape, and he didn't disappoint live. Still could improve but hey.

I thought he skated well for a big guy, someone was praising him for his jets, which was a stretch, but he certainly didn't look like a slug, and has a nose for the puck. Though the breakaway which lead to a penalty shot showed his limitations compared to say Frost. If you're big and strong, and can shoot and have soft hands and no fear of contact, you don't have to be a candidate for the Olympic speed skating trials.

 

[deadhead]

I was in the building last night. A few thoughts...

I thought Vorobyev was our best player. Such a composed, natural playmaker. The Kosorenkov love is a little surprising to me. He carried the puck with speed a few times to gain zone entries. Other than that, I thought that line was pretty much the Pimp Daddy Vorobyev show.

Yeah, Pimp Daddy knows where his girls are at all times, and doles out favors to them. He just has "it," something I don't think can be taught, that innate ice sense. And he's fast and big enough to carve out a solid top 9 role. Look forward to seeing him tear up the AHL, though I think if Laughton falters he's got an outside shot at a roster spot.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Bunnaman's biggest assets are his size/strength & hands in tight.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Was it Gordon coaching last night or was it Murphy? I had to watch a crappy Internet feed of the game and the audio was out, so they didn't say who was coaching the Flyers.

 

[Embiid]

I didn't think it was overtly glaring that he was the slowest. On the 3rd goal against it looked to me that he just didn't hustle back to take his man. I could easily be wrong. Maybe he was hustling and his skating is really just that bad.

He did the old Vinny glide on the ice every time I watched him....kind of a sign his skating is suspect. Heck I should know...I do it playing roller hockey these days but mostly because my stamina is not that of a 20 year old anymore....but my skating has always needed refinement. Have other skillsets to compensate..or had them...lol

 

[Johnk0728]

I think the issue for Sanheim is to understand he's not going to make the team in TC by outplaying everyone (i.e., trying too hard to stand out) but by showing he has mastered the fundamentals of the position (i.e. the coach can trust him not to screw up).

Provorov - Gudas
Morin - Ghost
Sanheim, Hagg, McDonald, Manning.

So he'd be viewed as a 3rd pair D-man his rookie year, and no coach wants a third pair D-man who is mistake prone (wants, if Manning makes the team it's because a rookie failed to shove him to the sidelines).

I would surprised to see Morin getting top 4 minutes but definitely want him on the Flyers. He is a beast physically but he does lose the puck a little too much. I think too many people are expecting too much from Sanheim. I was excited by his skills last night. Don't focus on the results in a game like that but his overall skill set. No doubt in my mind that he is an NHL'er but he is will be probably squeezed out due to the idea of too much youth on the blue line. Myers looked average to me.