Post-Game Talk: We are the ones who blew two more leads

[captainscott]

Sami Vatanen is a higher priority then Hall in terms of re-signing.

Hall just needs to get traded.

picked up game in the third saw the hall lucky goal and the subsequent ear thing.... cya you dick... GTFO I'm older and have watched this proud franchise win 3 cups and almost two more.. never saw a player call out his own fans like that... shame on shero and hynes if this guy dresses for this team again scratch him and find a trade partner

 

[Camille the Eel]

No one played that OT well IMO. A lot of selfish plays. Zero cohesion.

Zacha should get more shifts, but Hynes has no faith in him for whatever reason.

As you said we are not well coached. OT and the shootout are examples. Personnel in both. Would love to have seen Bratt and Gusev in the shootout. Gusev’s in the press box. Yes we got some pk from Rooney and Hayden but is it worth it? In OT we have no particular strategy. Cough the puck up way to senselessly. Don’t run the little picks and rub plays you see Arizona and the Bruins do and other clubs do . . . I love this team actually but we don’t play a smart game.

 

[Devils090]

Would be nice if there was even an inkling of Hynes being perilously close to being canned...but there’s nothing

 

[captainscott]

No one played that OT well IMO. A lot of selfish plays. Zero cohesion.

Zacha should get more shifts, but Hynes has no faith in him for whatever reason.

yeah not sure why he hates pavel.. he is clearly the best all around forward on this team right now.

 

[captainscott]

Would be nice if there was even an inkling of Hynes being perilously close to being canned...but there’s nothing

i want' hall dealt with before hynes

 

[Blender]

yeah not sure why he hates pavel.. he is clearly the best all around forward on this team right now.

Not irresponsible enough with the puck. Should be trying to force stretch passes and coughing the puck up at the bluelines constantly.

 

[Blackjack]

They got out shot and out shot attempted again at 5 on 5. They did not play well. A few individual players may have, but the team did not.

Yup, not perfect. But we drew more penalties than we took, our powerplay produced, and our penalty kill was great. I mean, it's not all going to come together at once, people understand that, right?

 

[Devils090]

i want' hall dealt with before hynes

much easier to replace coaches like Hynes than players like Hall. I’m all for trading him come deadline time if we’re done but at least let’s get a new voice in the room first

 

[jkrdevil]

Yup, not perfect. But we drew more penalties than we took, our powerplay produced, and our penalty kill was great. I mean, it's not all going to come together at once, people understand that, right?

None of that shit matters if you aren’t going to be a good 5-on-5 team.

 

[glenwo2]

Bratt is skating directly into three Flyers and coughing the puck up.

I think Bratt may have forgotten that this was no longer 5v5 where he could draw defenders and then have other teammates be in the immediate vicinity for him to pass the puck.

It was a poor decision on his part but I also think he perhaps wanted to make something happen and maybe get a game-winner...

It is what it is.

 

[jkrdevil]

much easier to replace coaches like Hynes than players like Hall. I’m all for trading him come deadline time if we’re done but at least let’s get a new voice in the room first

That and having a new voice and better performance under a new coach could boost Hall’s value

 

[glenwo2]

That was a bad play, Bratt is a little overconfident right now.

So what was Bratt when he was scratched?

Under-confident?

I don't think that over-confidence had anything to do with anything.

Just poor judgement on his part.

 

[Blackjack]

None of that **** matters if you aren’t going to be a good 5-on-5 team.

We were good 5v5 against Arizona and Tampa Bay. Again, it's not all going to come together at once.

 

[Emperoreddy]

We were good 5v5 against Arizona and Tampa Bay. Again, it's not all going to come together at once.

It’s not coming together at all. We aren’t a team playing well with bad luck.

We are a bad team getting the results it deserves.

 

[Blackjack]

So what was Bratt when he was scratched?

Under-confident?

I don't think that over-confidence had anything to do with anything.

Just poor judgement on his part.

Believe me, I'm not on his case, I thought he had another great game tonight. Just conceding a point to @Emperoreddy

 

[jkrdevil]

We were good 5v5 against Arizona and Tampa Bay. Again, it's not all going to come together at once.

The Coyotes were on the last leg of a 3 of 4 while we had 6 days rest. The Lightning were on the second end of a back to back while we had 5 days rest.

Those should have been schedule wins and the goaltending f***ed. It was kind of like last year when they started the season catching a few teams on short rest and we thought the team was going to be dominant. How did that work out?

 

[Blender]

 

[Edmonton East]

yeah not sure why he hates pavel.. he is clearly the best all around forward on this team right now.

Zacha, Bratt, Gusev, Boqvist (small sample, but whatever)

Certain players get held accountable on this team, others do not.

A coach needs to hold everyone accountable or he becomes toxic to the locker room. In my opinion, I've seen enough of Hynes to say he gives American players an absurdly long leash that he doesn't extend to others. Hayden. Rooney. Wood. Carrick. Tennyson. And while Hughes and Palms obviously are far superior to those players, I feel like they both do not get punished for mistakes like they would if they happened to not be American.

And in general he holds NA vs Euro players to different standards as well.

 

[Blackjack]

It’s not coming together at all. We aren’t a team playing well with bad luck.

We are a bad team getting the results it deserves.

I don't think we're playing well yet, but I do think we're doing some things better and I believe the play can continue to improve. The power play and penalty kill, for example, are worlds better.

 

[Emperoreddy]

There is zero accountability in that locker room. It’s all “Awww shucks, we will get them next time!”

 

[Blender]

There is zero accountability in that locker room. It’s all “Awww shucks, we will get them next time!”

Well zero accountability unless you're one of Hynes' whipping boys.

 

[jkrdevil]

Had they won all 4 OT/SO games....they would still be on the outside looking in on the playoff picture.

 

[NJDevs26]

Right, every single team we play decently against is a bad team or having a bad night. Forget that the Flyers were supposed to be a playoff team this year, Tampa was the odds on cup favorite, Arizona is 1 point out of a playoff spot, and Vancouver is in one.

Who had the Flyers pegged as a playoff team? Besides maybe the Flyers themselves. They were supposed to be a borderline team at best, just like we were supposed to be a borderline team at best. You guys are making these other teams out to be better than they are, we've had eight games at home against slightly above average competition (if that) with all sorts of schedule breaks in our favor . If they can't win these games, then why should I expect them to win any game at all on this upcoming trip?

I actually can't believe people are taking a game where we got outshot and played terribly in OT as some kind of IMPROVEMENT?! Why, because we only gave up one soft goal instead of two or three? Big whoop. We know Blackwood is better than Cory though a save on that last goal would have been nice, that was Cory-like too.

 

[Blackjack]

The Coyotes were on the last leg of a 3 of 4 while we had 6 days rest. The Lightning were on the second end of a back to back while we had 5 days rest.

Those should have been schedule wins and the goaltending ****ed. It was kind of like last year when they started the season catching a few teams on short rest and we thought the team was going to be dominant. How did that work out?

And if it was reversed, TB and ARI would have been "rusty". I'm not hearing this stuff.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Had they won all 4 OT/SO games....they would still be on the outside looking in on the playoff picture.

Could have should have. They didn’t win any of those games because they weren’t good enough.

It’s not bad luck. It’s poor play.