We are serious contenders!

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  1. JT AM da real deal

    JT AM da real deal Registered User

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    Vas and Freddy likely square off in round 2. The better goalie will decide that series. Freddy needs to steal one in Tampa. A Stanley Cup goalie has to do that 1 time every series.
     
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    6th in the standings. tied for 2nd in ROW. 3rd in goal differential.

    4th in goals for. 7th in goals against(and most of the season with a worse defence than they have now)

    If that is not a contender, what do you call that?

    Find me another team with those numbers that isn't one.
     
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  3. AllDay28

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    how many cups does Nashville have? why we setting the bar on teams that never win? Why not tell me how CHicago and Los Angeles were put together. You know, winners..
     
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  4. dsred

    dsred Babcock Gonna Babcock, Dubas gonna Dubas.

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    If only we had a better PP to make up that differential.
     
  5. dsred

    dsred Babcock Gonna Babcock, Dubas gonna Dubas.

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    Never apologize for having an opinion. And a solid one, at that.
     
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  6. DanM

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    Thank you!

    I had Zeke and others attacking me for sharing my opinion on team flaws that I was worried about.

    So I felt the need to apologize and state that I am a Leaf fan :(:(
     
  7. zeke

    zeke #FireBabcock

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    again, we're 8th in goals against. that has nothing to do with our offense.
     
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    Regular season stats tell me we are a good team.
    What do post season stats say?
     
  9. DanM

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    Let me ask you a question, Freddy has been lights out most of the year, this has for sure masked things (including GA), do you honestly think we have a legit top notch D? you believe we play within a sound defensive structure from our top C down?

    Because goal differential can be affected by many variables, such as a solid goalie.

    Another question, if Anderson is average (not bad) do you have faith our sound defensive structure, and top D would be able to withstand that? Or if we can't score on the PP or 5X5 as well (not bad, just average) against a top team, would we keep the puck out of our own net enough?

    Because I feel teams like Tampa, Nashville, Calgary, and Boston for sure could.
     
  10. DanM

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    You mean Chicago with Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Campbell (and this is just the top 4 lol)

    Or

    L.A. with Doughty, Martinez, Muzzin, Scuderi, Regher (at one point) Mitchell?

    Plus both teams being sound defensively throughout the lineup...

    Yeah, those teams played a much better defensive game.
     
  11. Loosie

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    Didn't you just admit that Tampa has similar flaws as us?

    As well you goalie is part of your defence. What would happen if we had great D and a crappy goaltender?

    Also if we can't score on the PP or 5X5 against a top team you're not winning no matter how good your D is.

    Look at LA. They have allowed only 8 goals more than we have, but they've only scored 132 goals (a full 63 less than us). Good D!

    Is our D a top D in the league? No, but it's top 10. And a top 10 D and our offence is a contender in this league.
     
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  12. CantLoseWithMatthews

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    yeah, it is a huge red flag that the Leafs haven't done anything in the post season yet this year
     
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    I would be concerned that they are way too soft.
    Numbers won't count for much when your face is up against the glass and you're afraid to get hit.
    That is the immediate future of this team if Shanahan doesn't tell Wonder Boy to get some toughness.
     
  14. LeafFever

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    I have never in my life seen a team with such a low GA destroyed like the Leafs D does.
    What's the reasoning for them being as low GA as Tampa has?
     
  15. FraumBallard

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    Heart.
    Character.
    Pride.
    Some people don't value that.
    I think we will see that it matters a lot.
    Dismiss it if you like.
    You will be proven wrong.
     
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  16. FraumBallard

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    Funny.
    Well done.
     
  17. FraumBallard

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    Clean.
    Crisp.
    And .
    True.
    Good post.
     
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    FraumBallard Registered User

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    Solid post.
    100% agree.
     
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  19. FraumBallard

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    Yeah.
    It's a team game.
    GA has everything to do with our offence.
    Logic.
    Just Sayin'.
     
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  20. FraumBallard

    FraumBallard Registered User

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    You are not alone.
    I love the Leafs.
    Always have.
    They have flaws.
    It's okay to point them out.
     
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  21. LeafFever

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    My favourite argument is they aren't contenders because of no series wins since 04. Really, who the heck cares? In 40 years of watching hockey I have never picked teams based on past playoff success. Your predictions would be brutal if you did that.
     
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  22. ANDI P IS CUTE

    ANDI P IS CUTE Registered User

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    no we are not- too soft, need another d, power forward, play AM With Willy, fire PP coach, need a better backup and get THAT SPEEDY PEST 4TH LINER UP FROM THE MARLIES. bench LINDHOLM.
     
  23. ANDI P IS CUTE

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    Marleau to 4th line too.
     
  24. Tracer Bullet

    Tracer Bullet Doctorate Degree in Saskatchewan Science

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    Based on your Chicago example we're arguably only one defenseman away then. That's pretty damn close. Also I'd say our defense corps is similar to Pittsburgh's when they won back-to-back Cups.
     
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  25. FraumBallard

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    Hmmm.
    Why might they get more pps?
    I wonder.
    Hmmm.
     
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