Simmonds has 1 more goal than Nyquist on a far better offensive team and doesn't have the playmaking ability Nyquist does. Not to mention Nyquist is actually a capable defensive player.
How can you defend SImmonds PP numbers? He's literally a goal scorer, or so I keep getting told. He is part of the problem with Philly's PP.
You claim he won't get a huge return, then say you wouldn't be shocked to see him get a 1st+
I have been an advocate for the Flames trying to get Simmonds for years, but he is declining, he is a liability defensively and quite frankly he has the potential to be the biggest deadline bust if someone overpays for him.
While the flyers may be scoring more, Simmonds doesn’t play with Couturier, Giroux, or Voracek.
I’m not disagreeing with the assertion that he could be a bust down the line if someone pays for him and signs him long term. However, he is a rental and teams pay for rentals to help them with the Stanley cup. Simmonds is a perfect match for that type of sentiment. Teams do pay for that. The 2nd + NHL player is the same value of a 1st + project prospect. Neither is over the top.
Since you’re a flames fan, I think some of these would be fair:
PHI: Wayne Simmonds (50%)
CGY: 2019 2nd + Curtis Lazar + 2019 5th*
Cond.—> If Wayne Simmonds resigns... add a 2020 5th too.
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PHI: Wayne Simmonds (50%) + 2019 4th
CGY: 2019 1st + Martin Pospisil
Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Frolik - Backlund - Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Simmonds
Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik
Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
JVR/Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek
JVR/Lindblom - Laughton - Raffl
Lazar - Varone - Bailey/NAK
I don’t think that’s a high ask for a player like Simmonds. This is what I mean by the ask for Simmonds. A team looking to make noise in the playoffs would be fools to say no to either trade. Simmonds doesn’t pan out in the Flyers picture because of young players needing resigning (Provorov, Sanheim, Patrick, Konecny, and so on) whole we have players like Frost, NAK, and possibly Rubtsov/Ratcliffe/Allison/Farabee making noise for spots soon.