Value of: Wayne Simmonds

[The Madrigal]

Flyers should be happy with either one....not both.

And if I am wrong, I will gladly say it.

I agree. If Fletcher can get a first round pick, OR stud prospect for Simmonds I will be really happy. I can also live with a 2nd and good prospect. I was of the opinion a couple of months ago that the Flyers would get a first and really good prospect for Simmonds. Three things happened since then though. The market shaped up as a buyers market. Simmonds has struggled offensively. I came to my senses and realized it wasn't happening. Obviously I hope like hell I end up being wrong.

 

[Tripod]

I agree. If Fletcher can get a first round pick, OR stud prospect for Simmonds I will be really happy. I can also live with a 2nd and good prospect. I was of the opinion a couple of months ago that the Flyers would get a first and really good prospect for Simmonds. Three things happened since then though. The market shaped up as a buyers market. Simmonds has struggled offensively. I came to my senses and realized it wasn't happening. Obviously I hope like hell I end up being wrong.

We'll, the one thing going for us, is that you have been wrong before!!





Just an early morning jab....lol.

 

[Munch89]

I’m certainly happy. It may be possible to get 1st + Tolvanen at this point.

I highly doubt that, I've been thinking of going after Tolvanen with a Simmonds trade, but I think we would have to add a 3rd or some kind of condition in order to give the trade any sort of chance.

 

[Dooble08]

I highly doubt that, I've been thinking of going after Tolvanen with a Simmonds trade, but I think we would have to add a 3rd or some kind of condition in order to give the trade any sort of chance.

Wonder if Nashville would go for Simmonds and a conditional 3rd (becomes a 2nd if he does not resign) for Tolvanen.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Yea maybe but Boyle went for a 2nd so that’s below what you’ll get for Simmonds. Duchene just went for a lot. Cbus 1 and 3 prospect. A first rounder that could be good. And a second rounder that could easily be a lottery pick if they sign him. If the jets add stone it’s prob going to cost more than Duchene. Nashville is then forced to add someone. Tolvanen is a good prospect but that’s still all he is. He’s not a sure bet at all or they’d keep him. He’s cooled off a lot in hype. So you’re looking at a struggling prospect and a late first.

Why does everyone bring up Boyle getting a 2nd when talking about Simmonds as a good thing for Philly? At the time of the trade Boyle had 19 points after 47 games, Simmonds had 21 after 47. Boyle had more hits than Simmonds. Boyle is a center, is defensively responsible and can PK.

So both players are physical bottom 6 forwards. One gives you a little more offense but is poor defensively, the other more defensive, can PK and good on the draw. Add in the fact Nashville got Boyle a month ago and an extra 10 games more than a team with get Simmonds for which is 12% more of the season and I think Philly would be lucky to get the Boyle return.

 

[TheKingPin]

Why does everyone bring up Boyle getting a 2nd when talking about Simmonds as a good thing for Philly? At the time of the trade Boyle had 19 points after 47 games, Simmonds had 21 after 47. Boyle had more hits than Simmonds. Boyle is a center, is defensively responsible and can PK.

So both players are physical bottom 6 forwards. One gives you a little more offense but is poor defensively, the other more defensive, can PK and good on the draw. Add in the fact Nashville got Boyle a month ago and an extra 10 games more than a team with get Simmonds for which is 12% more of the season and I think Philly would be lucky to get the Boyle return.

You are really comparing Simmonds vs Boyle expected returns? Lucky to get the same as Boyle? Why is a Mercedes worth more than a Honda.

 

[AndreRoy]

You are really comparing Simmonds vs Boyle expected returns? Lucky to get the same as Boyle? Why is a Mercedes worth more than a Honda.

It isn’t if it’s an old, busted Mercedes against a smooth-running Honda.