Was Morgan Rielly jobbed out of 2019 Norris nomination?

[ccman68]

In case anyone is curious.

 

[ESH]

Does it really matter anyways? Neither Rielly or Hedman are gonna win it. Everyone has their own rankings.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

In the first few months perhaps....

 

[EdJovanovski]

No lmao

 

[Tage2Tuch]

Why is it always a controversy when a leaf doesent get nominated for an Award or the all star game like with marner and Reilly there too. For the record I think both deserved to go but that’s the format so....marner deserved it more then skinner

Other players are getting passed over like John Carlson who’s probably deserved to be nominated two or three times now..

Reilly had an incredible year but let’s not go nuts

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

One guy who doesnt play D in the top 3 is plenty.

the idea is that he should have replaced Hedman, though

 

[LeafsNation75]

Nazem Kadri said on Twitter that Rielly got snubbed not being a finalist for the Norris.

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[koyvoo]

I said it multiple times throughout the season, that whether their logic is flawed or not, the tendencies of the voters must be taken in to consideration and they don’t award this trophy to guys playing under 23 mins a game. They never have for as long as I can remember.

This is a completely different topic than whether or not Rielly played Norris calibre D throughout the year. I personally think and expressed that I felt he did but based on the tendencies of the voters alone, I didn’t see him near the top of thier voting lists.

 

[Snakepit]

I mean you could make a good, good argument for both Hedman or Reilly. I wouldn't go as far to say he got snubbed, so I voted no, but it's not like he'd be out of place as a finalist either.

 

[LeafsNation75]

I said it multiple times throughout the season, that whether their logic is flawed or not, the tendencies of the voters must be taken in to consideration and they don’t award this trophy to guys playing under 23 mins a game. They never have for as long as I can remember.

This is a completely different topic than whether or not Rielly played Norris calibre D throughout the year. I personally think and expressed that I felt he did but based on the tendencies of the voters alone, I didn’t see him near the top of thier voting lists.

What about the fact that the voters didn't make the leading goal scorer among defenseman this year a finalist?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

It seems like scoring 20 goals and leading all defensemen in goals wasn’t quite a big deal in 2011 when Dustin Byfuglien did it and finished 7th in Norris voting. Where was the outrage then?

 

[LeafsNation75]

It seems like scoring 20 goals and leading all defensemen in goals wasn’t quite a big deal in 2011 when Dustin Byfuglien did it and finished 7th in Norris voting. Where was the outrage then?

I honestly don't remember why anyone did not make a big deal about Byfuglien not being a Norris finalist that year. However I thought at that time he was still a forward, although I guess I'm wrong about that since you brought his name up with the Norris. However maybe it also had to do with him only getting a total of 53 points, where as this season along with his 20 goals, Rielly also had 52 assists for 72 total points. Those numbers were also much better than what Victor Hedman got this year and for some reason he's a finalist.

 

[Boud]

I'm a Sens fan and I feel like he deserved it more than Hedman as well.

 

[Pominville Knows]

I honestly don't remember why anyone did not make a big deal about Byfuglien not being a Norris finalist that year. However I thought at that time he was still a forward, although I guess I'm wrong about that since you brought his name up with the Norris. However maybe it also had to do with him only getting a total of 53 points, where as this season along with his 20 goals, Rielly also had 52 assists for 72 total points. Those numbers were also much better than what Victor Hedman got this year and for some reason he's a finalist.

Think of it what you want, but Hedman's missed games kinda makes his totals look weaker than they are.
Another matter that missed games usually is not a great idea to win the Norris with.

 

[thadd]

I usually complain when the Leafs get special treatment... but I don't understand how Rielly got snubbed.

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

If Reilly played for a non Canadian market most HFBoards would be in agreement.

He was third in points and Hainsey was his damn partner through most the season.

What more does the guy need to do?

 

[CanadienShark]

Nazem Kadri said on Twitter that Rielly got snubbed not being a finalist for the Norris.

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Oh wow, Kadri says so, so it must be real.

He's a source of intelligent thought and reason, after all.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Oh wow, Kadri says so, so it must be real.

He's a source of intelligent thought and reason, after all.

I know Kadri is not popular on here among fans of other teams besides the Maple Leafs, however he didn't say anything wrong and all he did was mention how one of his teammates got snubbed of being a Norris Trophy finalist, which he should have been based on his stats in the regular season.

 

[Nabrules]

Neither Hedman or Reilly deserved it. John Carlson should have been the third nomination. Got screwed over last year and again this year.

 

[Sparksrus3]

I'll bet that when the voting results come out it will be revealed that he was the runaway 4th selection.

Funny . Might be the first runaway 4th ever

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Should have got that third spot over Hedman.

I had it Giordano, Burns, and Rielly.

 

[Randy Randerson]

yes he should have been the 3rd nominee, but he wasn't going to win over Burns or Giordano so does it really matter?

 

[Los merengues]

Being a Finalist is just an abstract thing. Its not like they choose 3 guys and a jury decides The winner out of them. He might have Been 4th. who knows. Its not a blasthemy he wasnt top 3. Though he wouldve Been More deserving than Hedman, but so did few other guys. Didn't get jobbed or robbed IMO

 

[Hockey Outsider]

when was the last time a defenseman scored 20 goals without being a Norris finalist?

Including Reilly, it's happened 15 times in the 21st century - not quite once per season, but pretty close:

• Oliver Ekman-Larsson, both in 2015 and 2016
• Shea Weber, both in 2009 and 2016
• Mark Giordano in 2016
• Erik Karlsson in 2014
• Dustin Byfuglien in 2011
• Sheldon Souray, both in 2007 and 2009
• Dan Boyle in 2007
• Dion Phaneuf in 2006
• Mathieu Schneider in 2006
• Sergei Gonchar in 2002
• Brian Leetch in 2001

That being said - my guess is Reilly finished 4th. We'll find out in June.

 

[Healthy DiPietro]

Nazem Kadri said on Twitter that Rielly got snubbed not being a finalist for the Norris.

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Let's hear from other players, except without the bias factor.