Confirmed Trade: [VGK/TBL] Nikita Gusev, '17 2nd, '18 4th to select Jason Garrison

[Kingsfan1]

Deal all comes down to if Gusev comes over

100% agree but it helps having his line mate Shipachyov there as well and possibly Dadonov

 

[derriko]

Someone explain to me what Vegas has to do to get Gusev over this year since he has one more year on his contract in the K.

Does Vegas just pay his KHL team for his rights or what?

 

[These Are The Days]

Absolutely ****ing ridiculous we'd give up a player like Gusev just to lose Garrison. I swear I have never seen a team so advantagedbefore in expansion. This is beyond unprecedented

 

[Anarchy Joe]

Gusev is likely to resign with SKA. I know we have tried and tried to get him over here and if he doesn't want to join all of our Russians on a winning team he sure is not going to Las Vegas. It is really a 2nd and 4th for a salary dump.

Vadim Shipachyov his linemate on SKA in Russia might be able to convince him to come over

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

Gusev is likely to resign with SKA. I know we have tried and tried to get him over here and if he doesn't want to join all of our Russians on a winning team he sure is not going to Las Vegas. It is really a 2nd and 4th for a salary dump.

And we have two 2nd round picks.

Don't see why people think this trade is so bad for TB. Oh well, don't care what people think. SY did great in my book.

100% agree but it helps having his line mate Shipachyov there as well and possibly Dadonov

TB has a ton of Russian players. You think he's going there if he wouldn't come to TB to play with "Little Russia"?

 

[Smartguy]

Gusev is likely to resign with SKA. I know we have tried and tried to get him over here and if he doesn't want to join all of our Russians on a winning team he sure is not going to Las Vegas. It is really a 2nd and 4th for a salary dump.

This is the thing, doesn't look like he plans to come over. Thought vegas was gonna stock up with shipyachov, dadonov, and radulov, possible kovy, which then vegas looks enticing for Gusev by creating a KHL all star team. But remains to be seen I guess

 

[Bourdon]

Someone explain to me what Vegas has to do to get Gusev over this year since he has one more year on his contract in the K.

Does Vegas just pay his KHL team for his rights or what?

Gusev would have to buy out his KHL contract, which has one more year on it, I believe. I would say that if Vegas is able to sign Dadonov, that there's a good chance Gusev crosses over at some point.

 

[Fro]

if Gusev never comes over, it's a great deal IMO

 

[Kipper933]

Anyone know if he is coming over next season?

last speculation was that Gusev would sign a 2-year deal in the KHL (I believe after his current contract), which would take him to his UFA age for the NHL.

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

if Gusev never comes over, it's a great deal IMO

- We protected Dotchin/Koekkoek from being selected
- We moved $4.6M off the books for one more year
- This is how much cap space we have to work with:

Only needing to resign Tyler Johnson, and Ondrej Palat. Sustr could be resigned for cheap as well.

Means we're getting someone like Shattenkirk to replace Garrison.

This is a great deal even if Gusev comes to NA.

 

[The Macho King]

Posted in the Tampa forum, but here's how I see it:

2nd to not take Dotchin

4th to not take Koekkoek

Gusev to take Garrison

 

[Master P]

2nd time in a week SY gets burn.

Uhhhhh sure bud, sure.

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

Posted in the Tampa forum, but here's how I see it:

2nd to not take Dotchin

4th to not take Koekkoek

Gusev to take Garrison

And then waiting for the end of the NHL season to trade Drouin and get Sergachev and then sign Shattenkirk, who we wanted to trade Drouin for directly at the deadline, is a great deal in my book.

That's how I see this deal. What you said, but then also Drouin for Sergachev and Shattenkirk in free agency due to the amount of cap space we've cleared in moving Garrison and Drouin.

 

[Fro]

Posted in the Tampa forum, but here's how I see it:

2nd to not take Dotchin

4th to not take Koekkoek

Gusev to take Garrison

that's a fair way to put it...

 

[alsrevenge]

Absolutely ****ing ridiculous we'd give up a player like Gusev just to lose Garrison. I swear I have never seen a team so advantagedbefore in expansion. This is beyond unprecedented

the expansion fee paid by Vegas is unprecedented too...

that said, Vegas crapped the bed on a number of their choices...

 

[malkinfan]

Hes in US right now, going to check out Vegas facilities with comrade Sipachev within next few weeks. He likely stay one more year in the KHL. People saying he is extending his contract is likely untrue. He is renegotiating his contract with SKA to earn a higher salary in order to keep him there for one more year.

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

the expansion fee paid by Vegas is unprecedented too...

that said, Vegas crapped the bed on a number of their choices...

Agreed. Would have told Minnesota to screw off, wouldn't take their trade or draft Haula and would gleefully take Dumba.

 

[ViD]

Wonder what 86 thinks of this

 

[kanucks25]

I'm assuming Vegas talked to Gusev or his rep before trading for him. Gotta believe they made this trade assuming he'd come over.

 

[PAZ]

Vegas did really well on this trade. Overall they did pretty poorly given what they could've got, but this one McPhee got more than I was expecting.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Agreed. Would have told Minnesota to screw off, wouldn't take their trade or draft Haula and would gleefully take Dumba.

Dumba isn't there if there's no deal in place. Fletcher would have traded him away rather than lose him for nothing.

 

[DFC]

I think McPhee had Yzerman in a tough spot. Not only did Yzerman want to keep his two young D, but this was his only opportunity to move Garrison, thanks to Garrison's NTC. McPhee made him pay for it. If Yzerman had said no, there would be no other options for getting Garrison off the books, which really could be a make or break factor for the Lightning this year.

 

[Todd1a]

I think McPhee had Yzerman in a tough spot. Not only did Yzerman want to keep his two young D, but this was his only opportunity to move Garrison, thanks to Garrison's NTC. McPhee made him pay for it. If Yzerman had said no, there would be no other options for getting Garrison off the books, which really could be a make or break factor for the Lightning this year.

Mcphee had a lot of teams in tough spots! Have you ever seen a NHL team come into the league with this big of a advantage!! Plus at the NHL trade deadline they will unload more guys for draft picks and prospects you watch. I bet at the deadline they move James Neal for a 1st round pick and a prospect easy.

 

[derriko]

I'm assuming Vegas talked to Gusev or his rep before trading for him. Gotta believe they made this trade assuming he'd come over.

Of course. Good chance of getting Dadonov too. No rumors on Kovalchuk and Vegas, but that would be the dream scenario.

 

[Iceman]

I think this is fair from both team's perspective.

Garrison is imo good enough to just select without any compensation. He will probably want both term and money to stick around but at least a year, maybe more of a solid 2nd pairing dman is pretty solid so grabbing some picks are a nice bonus for a new team. We drafted Kucherov late and Palat really late so who knows.

From Tampa's perspective you shed a contract with a high caphit to make room to sign a free agent or two. The picks are more likely to not turn out to be anything so it's not a major loss, really.