Confirmed Trade: [VGK/MTL] Max Pacioretty for 2019 2nd round pick, Nick Suzuki, and Tomas Tatar

[Siludin]

no reason to think that.

The flavor of the week is that any undersized prospect centre will simply be a winger in the NHL.

 

[AuraSphere]

For Vegas:
1st round pick
2nd round pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick
Nick Suzuki

for

Max Pacioretty

I don't think that's good long-term value for the organization. Vegas really needs to stop trading assets.

Couldn't agree with you more. LOL GMGM forever

 

[The Great Weal]

This is a strange deal Vegas could regret trading Nick Suzuki, however Tomas Tatar is another potentially bad contract added to Montreal

Meh, 3 years 5.3 per. Habs have a lot of cap space and nothing to spend it on. They can simply retain 50% and flip him.

 

[Boxscore]

Whoa,

I really like this trade for Montreal. And, I guess this means VGK is out on Karlsson, huh?

 

[CanuckGame39]

1:30am ET...... Bergevin got into the liquor and decided to make some trades.

 

[CauZuki]

Vegas seems to be taking what made them good last year.. Speed, and saying.. Not so fast anymore.. Stastny and Patches are good but.. Not sure they will do well in that system

Pacioretty has excellent speed.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

In a recent Patch to Avs proposal...
people scoffed and mocked at "Tyson Jost + Connor Timmins + 2020 2nd" for an extended Patch.

THIS isn't much off in value than this deal. show your faces and admit you were wrong on the value of MAX PACIORETTY.

 

[HanSolo]

Suzuki is gonna love it when MTL forces him to play winger.

I'll say this about my viewings of Suzuki that aren't necessarily dispositive of anything. I know he was great in the OHL but any time he was taking time with Vegas, between rookie camps and preseason he just lacked the tenacity and assertiveness to back up his skill. So often he was pushed to the perimeter and would try to make a pass off to someone else instead of pushing the issue alone and half the time it would result in nothing. I'm sure that can improve but of the four Vegas top prospects, I'd have been the least sad to see Suzuki go. He has high upside but to me felt like the least stable bet of the four.

Still feels like an overpay but whatever. Vegas' top 6 offense is really solid now after losing Neal and Perron.

Biggest worry is getting him re-signed to a reasonable deal.

 

[sharks9]

So a 1st, 2nd and Tatar?

Maybe I’m just not high on Tatar. Not sure what contributions he will make in Montréal.

Ideally he'll contribute another pick at this year's deadline

 

[Kingspiracy]

Nice big trade, it looks decent for both teams. Im a little worried how good patches will be, with a bee in his bonnet in a contract year on a better team.

 

[Lunatik]

Trades like this are why people think McPhee is a shitty GM

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Bergevin finally won a trade...steal

 

[Mogo]

First thing comes to mind. Damn Vegas got hustled on Tatar. Payed all those high picks, didn't even use him in playoffs and now dump him for cap space

 

[AuraSphere]

In a recent Patch to Avs proposal...
people scoffed and mocked at "Tyson Jost + Connor Timmins + 2020 2nd" for an extended Patch.

THIS isn't much off in value than this deal. show your faces and admit you were wrong on the value of MAX PACIORETTY.

No one was wrong, I'd rather have Skinner for a second and think he's the better player.

Regardless, GMGM doesn't define value anymore than Chiarelli with Larsson for Hall

 

[HC7]

If I'm a GM I'm phoning McPhee immediately and asking him if he wants to make a trade. I don't even care what the trade is, all I know if he's going to fleece himself.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Hate seeing Tatar in Montreal. But I guess he wasn’t a good fit in Vegas. He’s not what Habs need but could score a lot of goals there.

 

[Szechwan]

They're going to need a center for the 1st line as well though.

stop they're already dead

 

[Mackiaveli]

MTL was patient and ended up getting a decent return in the end. Depending on what Suzuki becomes, this looks fair for both sides.

He is as valuable as Kyrou, Thomas and Frost --- as likely to be successful in the NHL as well.

With Poehling and Kotkaniemi, the Habs could end up with a truly formidable top 9 in 2-3 years, and that is not including the fact that we're likely to draft top 5 this year.

Drouin/Kotkaniemi/Gallagher
Domi/Suzuki/Scherbak
Lehkonen/Poehling/Tatar

With that being said, wish we drafted Zadina or Tkachuk at 3 instead; especially if we end up being able to get Hughes next year.

 

[7even]

1:30am ET...... Bergevin got into the liquor and decided to make some trades.

Don't think it was Bergevin getting turnt on this one...

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

wow great return

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Decent return for MTL considering how the situation seemed to devolve.

They get a very decent prospect, another pick, and if Tatar doesn't regain form with them, they still should be able to get some picks or prospects for him in a few years at the trade deadline.

Tatar was a costly mistake for Vegas. I wonder how things would have shaken out for them had they not dealt for Tatar. Was this Pacioretty deal partially motivated by wanting to find a tolerable way to dump Tatar?

I am guessing this means Vegas is out on Karlsson. How do they give up Glass or BrannstromBran a 1st in a package deal after shedding so many futures since the 2018 TDL?

 

[Fire Benning]

Vegas initially gave up three picks for Tatar, so they essentially gave up 1st, two 2nds, a 3rd, and Suzuki for potentially only one year of Pacioretty...they better hope they don’t regress too much this year.

 

[HC7]

In a recent Patch to Avs proposal...
people scoffed and mocked at "Tyson Jost + Connor Timmins + 2020 2nd" for an extended Patch.

THIS isn't much off in value than this deal. show your faces and admit you were wrong on the value of MAX PACIORETTY.

Jost >>> Tatar
Timmins = Suzuki
2nd = 2nd

 

[Afterburner]

Holy hell, Wax Staturetty finally got traded

 

[Ezekial]

I love Tommy Tats, I really hope he can put some shit together in Montreal, hopefully being in camp with a team and wanting to prove himself will make his best colors shine.
Montreal getting a prospect like Suzuki is great for them, high end prospect.

Good trade.