Confirmed with Link: [VAN/DAL] Canucks acquire C Derek Roy for D Kevin Connauton, 2nd Round Draft Pick

[WinterEmpire]

Roy doesn't fit the mold. Likes money and nightlife a bit too much. He's a rental. Hopefully the contract year is motivational enough for the next few months.

Kesler....?

 

[Bleach Clean]

Roy doesn't fit the mold. Likes money and nightlife a bit too much. He's a rental. Hopefully the contract year is motivational enough for the next few months.

I follow BUF a little bit and have heard this before. But I hope he's not a rental. Even if it costs the team a more "on board" player. They invested in him, and Gillis has said he won't deal picks for pure rentals.

 

[Drop the Sopel]

And I'm still unsure why Clowe in addition to Roy would make it unlikely, and not just Roy himself, which you have admitted would be all it would take. The statement about Clowe specifically makes little sense if he is not also expected to be retained. If he's not retained, how does his inclusion tip the scales even more into making a Booth return unlikely?

Because 2 top 6 additions to choose from makes re-signing 1 of them much more likely than if there was just 1 top 6 forward brought in. It's a numbers game.

If there was a 3rd UFA top 6 forward brought in it would make Booth's return even that much more unlikely. And so on...

 

[KISSland]

Just found out right now. -_-

How's Roy been this season?

Sounds like a fair deal yes?

 

[Drop the Sopel]

Just found out right now. -_-

How's Roy been this season?

Sounds like a fair deal yes?

Started slow coming off offseason shoulder surgery but is fully healthy right now and playing the best he has all year.

 

[xtr3m]

Kesler....?

At least Kes knew better and didn't tweet a photo of his new Ferrari during the lockout.

Anything can happen, but right now I simply don't see Roy being here long term.

 

[deadinthewater]

At least Kes knew better and didn't tweet a photo of his new Ferrari during the lockout.

Anything can happen, but right now I simply don't see Roy being here long term.

So tweeting a picture of his car is frowned upon here at the Canucks org? I guess a guy like Kane has no place here either.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Because 2 top 6 additions to choose from makes re-signing 1 of them much more likely than if there was just 1 top 6 forward brought in. It's a numbers game.

If there was a 3rd UFA top 6 forward brought in it would make Booth's return even that much more unlikely. And so on...

But if you are assured that Roy will be re-signed, like you have stated, what does bringing in Clowe ++ even matter?

 

[Aphid Attraction]

For those like me who find this shtic interesting...

 

[Nucker101]

For those like me who find this shtic interesting...

Is that a stress ball?

 

[Drop the Sopel]

But if you are assured that Roy will be re-signed, like you have stated, what does bringing in Clowe ++ even matter?

Where did I say Roy is assured to be re-signed? I said Gillis will likely attempt to re-sign him, as he doesn't like pure rental deals. It's still in Roy's hands whether he wants to stay.

The only thing I assured was that Gillis would go after Derek Roy. Not sure why you were so adamant he wouldn't.

 

[CallMeJerry]

I like deals where we get impending UFA's. If things click and there's mutual interest, a deal can be made - like with Higgins & Lapierre. The Canucks have a good thing going (notwithstanding the post-trade comments from Samuelsson)- players get treated very well, the organization does everything it can to win. That's why I don't understand Gillis' seeming preference for getting players with term on their contracts - like Ballard & Booth. Pay guys that choose to be here, not guys who have to be here.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Where did I say Roy is assured to be re-signed? I said Gillis will likely attempt to re-sign him, as he doesn't like pure rental deals. It's still in Roy's hands whether he wants to stay.

Hmmm...

I think Gillis gets him locked up for $5mil. Don't view this as a rental situation

The only thing I assured was that Gillis would go after Derek Roy. Not sure why you were so adamant he wouldn't.

My reticence had caveats: Style, Acquisition Cost and Retention Cost. The acquisition cost wasn't a 1st. The retention cost will be learned if/when he gets a new contract (considering he was asking for 6m), and the style issue will be evident if/when it costs them Booth.

Again though, I've posted a Raymond for Roy swap one here prior to the trade. I'm not sure how that conveys a dead set against view on him? My view on him depends on a few factors, which is why it remains mixed.

 

[CCF23]

Man, watching Roy clips on YT and random but Lonely Boy is an awesome goal song:

 

[deadinthewater]

Man, watching Roy clips on YT and random but Lonely Boy is an awesome goal song:

Ha, I remember that song; CBC used it for one of the opening montages of the Kings/Canucks series

Edit: Game 4



Bad, bad memories.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

Dallas plays a similar system to ours, right? He should have no trouble adjusting

 

[PG Canuck]

Dallas plays a similar system to ours, right? He should have no trouble adjusting

If Dallas plays no system with no structure, he'll fit in perfectly!

 

[Kmode]

I really like this deal.

Connauton wasn't going to make this team for at least a few years (if ever), and the way we draft, chances are our 2nd round pick wouldn't turn into much anyways.

Roy is a playmaking center and should help our anemic powerplay. He fills a need and if he works out for the next few months we have first dibs at signing him long-term. If he doesn't fit, then we accept the fact he was a rental and move on.

The one thing I find a little funny is that Roy is essentially Hodgson. Small 2nd/3rd line center who will run the 2nd unit powerplay. He's obviously a little more experienced, and a bit (and I mean only a bit) better defensively, but Gillis filled the hole we've been missing since we made that deal a season ago.

Too bad we didn't have that player during the playoffs last year...

 

[David71]

how good is his shot? plus vision. maybe could work wonders alongside kesler when he returns.

 

[PG Canuck]

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Higgins Roy Kesler
Raymond Schroeder Hansen

I'd be comfortable with this, seeing as that third line has built in chemistry with each other.

 

[CCF23]

how good is his shot? plus vision. maybe could work wonders alongside kesler when he returns.

He's a better playmaker than a finisher, but he has seasons of 32, 28, and 26 goals in the NHL so scoring hasn't been an issue for him.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

He's a better playmaker than a finisher, but he has seasons of 32, 28, and 26 goals in the NHL so scoring hasn't been an issue for him.

If we acquire Goc, we might be able to shift Derek Roy to wing

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Roy doesn't fit the mold. Likes money and nightlife a bit too much. He's a rental. Hopefully the contract year is motivational enough for the next few months.

50/50 for me. I know Gillis doesn't like rentals but I think he could make a good fit.

Say what you want about AV but he usually gets his players in line (exception being SOB). If he plays like he should, I couldn't really give two ***** about partying and such. The only thing it comes down to is money.

 

[Pip]

Guys, just scored a beauty goal with Roy in NHL13

safe to say that this trade has been a success

 

[Bad News Benning]

Guys, just scored a beauty goal with Roy in NHL13

safe to say that this trade has been a success

who did you put on his wings? AV could use some help putting the lines together.