He's not huge, but he's not small and soft either. 190lbs and good balance so he doesn't get knocked around easily like Vey.
Nice, thank you.
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Nice, thank you.
He's not huge, but he's not small and soft either. 190lbs and good balance so he doesn't get knocked around easily like Vey.
That's leverage in open ice though. He's been known to evade the corners and get manhandled in traffic.
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Who is that Tanev guy standing there puck watching? Will probably never amount to anything. Likely a bust. 
I don't think that's a good description. He's not a big guy, but he's not a push over or shrinking violet like you seem to think. The kid plays with some jam.
The only worry for me is the defensive IQ and commitment. If he figures that side of the game out, it could really come back to bite the Flames.
Are there 2 guys in the league that want to stick it to Burke and the Flames more than Sven Baertschi and Hunter Shinkaruk?
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What it does show is that he has the strength to play a tougher game, he just needs the confidence to do so. When a player of the size and stature of Baertschi doesn't have the confidence to go into the tough areas they will avoid them. Once they have the confidence they will.
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Are there 2 guys in the league that want to stick it to Burke and the Flames more than Sven Baertschi and Hunter Shinkaruk?
Burke wasn't part of the Flames organization for the 2013 draft. And if the rumors from that time are true, Shinkaruk didn't even want to go to Calgary.
You're right about Baertschi though. He should thrive if your coaches don't try to force him to play like Gallagher.
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He's not huge, but he's not small and soft either. 190lbs and good balance so he doesn't get knocked around easily like Vey.
you know who else was 190lbs? pavel bure. think about it.
Shinkaruk made comments after being drafted that he wants to show the Flames they made a mistake by passing him up. Though he's done nothing to prove it thus far.
Burke made some pretty harsh comments about Baertschi, hence why Sven probably wants to stick it to him.
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On the Gallagher comment, it is actually pretty funny. Canuck fans are angry that the new regime wants Kassian to play physical, while the Flames brass wanted Baertschi to style his game after Gallagher, like you said.
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Yeah, those two could work very well together. Both are smart enough offensive players that I'm not sure you could peg one of them as the 'passer' and 'shooter' as they're good at doing both and neither seem to fall primarily into one archetype. I think watching them potentially work those little give and goes could be fun.
Did he play LW or RW when Cooke was on his line with Kesler? (way back in 2007-08 before we traded Cookie)
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Out of the four waiver reclamation project trades Benning has done this is definitely my favourite. Hated the Vey and Pedan trade although I am willing to admit that Pedan seems to improving quite a bit and could definitely prove me wrong. Liked the Clendening acquisition at first but after watching him for a few games in the NHL I'm not sure if he will ever be more than a 6th dman specialist and I was pretty high on Forsling.
The problem of course is that all of these guys other than Pedan have to be on the big club next year and the thought of Vey, Clendening and Baertschi all playing at once scares me.
The problem of course is that all of these guys other than Pedan have to be on the big club next year and the thought of Vey, Clendening and Baertschi all playing at once scares me.
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This was an excellent trade for the 'nucks. Baerstchi, I feel, is being significantly underrated here. What people have to remember is that as little as 12+ months ago, he was considered a 'blue chip', top-notch offensive prospect. Meaning, not a 'top 100' guy, but 'top 10', basically. He's disappointed one team, but this (his first) change of scenery will certainly be the make-or-break opportunity for him. And I'm pretty sure most NHL teams would have liked Baerstchi's 'make-or-break' chance to have been with them, provided it would only have cost them a 2nd Round Pick.
Awesome... just the notion that somebody would deduce that the guy must have used a thesaurus to find 'ambivalence'... that, my friend, is where the hilarity lies.
'I have a limited vocabulary. Therefore, everybody else must have a limited vocabulary too'. Going by that logic: I don't understand how my computer is functioning right now, because I suck at electrical engineering.
Awesome... just the notion that somebody would deduce that the guy must have used a thesaurus to find 'ambivalence'... that, my friend, is where the hilarity lies.
'I have a limited vocabulary. Therefore, everybody else must have a limited vocabulary too'. Going by that logic: I don't understand how my computer is functioning right now, because I suck at electrical engineering.
I don't think it is about confidence. Baertschi isn't a first year pro where he is still trying to figure out how his own strength compares to other pros. This is a guy who doesn't necessarily like physical play but he needs to find a way and do what it takes to get to the next level. Heck, there was a belief that if you hit Patrick Kane early you can take him out of the game, but I don't think that works anymore. Take Kassian for example. There is no question he can play a physical game. Kassian knows that. But if you let him, he would settle into a finesse playmaking forward. But this isn't how Kassian is going to succeed in the NHL so it is about Kassian playing the type of game that will lead to his NHL success.
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This was an excellent trade for the 'nucks. Baerstchi, I feel, is being significantly underrated here. What people have to remember is that as little as 12+ months ago, he was considered a 'blue chip', top-notch offensive prospect. Meaning, not a 'top 100' guy, but 'top 10', basically. He's disappointed one team, but this (his first) change of scenery will certainly be the make-or-break opportunity for him. And I'm pretty sure most NHL teams would have liked Baerstchi's 'make-or-break' chance to have been with them, provided it would only have cost them a 2nd Round Pick.
Awesome... just the notion that somebody would deduce that the guy must have used a thesaurus to find 'ambivalence'... that, my friend, is where the hilarity lies.
'I have a limited vocabulary. Therefore, everybody else must have a limited vocabulary too'. Going by that logic: I don't understand how my computer is functioning right now, because I suck at electrical engineering.
Person A has a valid point. On HF people unnecessarily use "more complicated"/"dictionary" words that sound totally unnatural.
Ive always noticed it and I think it stems from one of three things:
1) An impressionable younger person who is copying everyone else and is trying to sound older.
2) An older male who has an unsophisticated job or is still in uni, so HF is where he can sound "smart". When I read HF this is mostly the picture in my head when i read "Chris Stewart's inevitable descent into mediocrity is due to his enigmatic nature and vigorous truculence". I always read this with comic book guy from Simpsons in my head.
3) Person actually thinks it reads naturally and just has no clue.
After considering how u responded and your profile name your likely #2.
Don't try and make people feel stupid because they don't have an extensive vocabulary. In my experience in life the smartest people speak practically and plainly. The people that overstretch their vocab r people with chips on their shoulder because of some intelligence napoleon complex thing.
Am I taking it too far? Yes. Have I wanted to say this forever? Yes.
Not to discourage a use of high level vocab. But the unnatural use of "dictionary" words is totally insane on HF.
to be honest, i havent seen a single instance of someone using a word thats too complicated for the idea that they're communicating in recent memory - at least on this forum
heck, i dont even use capital letters!
heck, i dont even use capital letters!
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"Ambivalence" is a high level vocab? Oh man HFBoards, please tell me you haven't gone that far downhill. I wouldn't have even blinked at its use, even on a hockey forum, until half a page got dedicated to its use. Definitely interesting to see what other people consider arcane language ...
