Aphid Attraction
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Don't see why... people have been putting combos of different prospects together trying to format the new WCE for quite a while now...
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Don't see why... people have been putting combos of different prospects together trying to format the new WCE for quite a while now...
but.. does that happen? like hes big ok, but what is that if its not converted into defensive or offensive value? entertainment value?
i dont mean to single you out here, but i feel "he's big" as a quality to fall back on isn't really relevant unless you're already really good at hockey, like when joe finally slows down he'll still be able to pure powergame 30 assists a season
kassian isn't even that big. he's 6'3. we have two guys bigger than him and neither of them get the same credit
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Just for fun, I think Baertschi-Horvat could be a potentially great pairing in a couple years time. Bo having the skating and IQ to mesh nicely with Baertschi but also able to control the puck on the boards and around the net and Baertschi playing the playmaker/distributor role off the wing. Way to early to expect such things but if we're just spitballing future pairs, I think that is one that could work really well.
This is the part that is most interesting to me.
I think we'll see Baertschi getting treated like Vey (which is exactly how I'd have liked to see Kassian treated) where he'll get put in every possible situation to succeed.
I don't think he'll have to adapt his game much to something he isn't, which sadly I don't think Kass has had the same benefit.
These guys shouldn't be competing for offensive minutes, they should be teaming together in offensive minutes, but one will be expected to do more than produce, while the other will be just fine....if he produces.
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GMs value the size and skill package that Kassian has and that gives him more value than his production indicates. I don't believe it's just size that gives Kassian value, it's the combination of the skill with the size. The tools.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I see Matthias as the only forward bigger than him and Edler the only D guy (which isn't really relevant).
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deckercky
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they're both skaters but yeah i corrected it to two
i know that gms value it, but gms also valued david clarkson and dave bolland
i mean, he has production, and he has production against. thats it. calories in, calories out. what can he do with the size that isn't one or the other? make really funny gifs?
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I do agree that *today* Kassian doesn't use his size to any extent where it can really be said to be a major advantage. However, it does factor into the *potential* of the player and why his value might be perceived to be higher than simply his production for/against. But as he gets older/plays more games, I think the value of that potential diminishes, as it becomes perceived as less and less likely that he will change his game to one where he truly uses his size to it's full extent. Either Kassian will make that change (and soon) or his value will finally align with his production in/out and the premium that is attached to him for his size will largely disappear.
burrows is a career right winger, though.
i don't think it's bad a line, I just don't think it practically works out that way.
Kassian will always carry value because of his size. That's his fall back. Same with Virtanen.
There is no fall back on Baertschi, if he's not producing, his fall back is...welll....back to europe.
Burrows was LW until he got promoted to the Sedin line, wasn't he? That's what I recall.
Daniel Sedin (leftie), Henrik Sedin (leftie), Alexander Burrows (leftie)
Markus Naslund (leftie), Brendan Morrison (leftie), Todd Bertuzzi (leftie)
Errr, what's the problem with three lefties on one line again?
mrmyheadhurts
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That Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr and Ron Francis line was "not bad" too I guess.
EDIT: That's hilarious, I completely forgot Mario shot right. Leaving it in for comedy.
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So what? I am using this as an example here to illustrate that, man, people sure do pick up on the strangest details.
i think it's funny like six of you guys felt the need to individually jump on me
i wasn't crapping on the line, i just think practically it works out with the left wingers end up playing left wing and some other natural right winger plays right wing.
i wasn't crapping on the line, i just think practically it works out with the left wingers end up playing left wing and some other natural right winger plays right wing.
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It does cut against the norm, but Utica has a total of three righties and two are D-Men. Three LH shots are playing their off wing. If Grenier is out of the lineup, it's all four.
WTG
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I like what I've seen from Baertschi in Utica.
Not anything to suggest he is Jensen territory of busting.
Not anything to suggest he is Jensen territory of busting.
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He's not huge, but he's not small and soft either. 190lbs and good balance so he doesn't get knocked around easily like Vey.
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He's not huge, but he's not small and soft either. 190lbs and good balance so he doesn't get knocked around easily like Vey.
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