ChaoticOrange
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That play would have got Puljujarvi sent to the shadow realm. Soft, soft play by a guy that hasn't brought much of anything to the table this season.
Post-Game Talk: Ugliest win in years
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That play would have got Puljujarvi sent to the shadow realm. Soft, soft play by a guy that hasn't brought much of anything to the table this season.
You are definitely not wrong. They have been disappointing. Hopefully they start to get rolling and play better but you can tell in interviews that Tippett is not pleased whatsoever.
I've stated this before in the past and someone on 1260 mentioned it yesterday too but they're playing without trust in one in another. When you play without trust in your linemates you play slower and more tentative because you have no idea if they will be there to support you or not (both offensively and defensively). This is plain as day to see. The DRY line had great trust and chemistry with one another and thus they played hard and aggressive and knew where each other would be and were a good connected 5 man unit with the dmen.
It's harder to play with Connor because he's more of a roamer who flies more by the seat of his pants. It makes him more dangerous at times, individually, offensively (to sneak by you or gain speed on a individual rush) but it also makes him unpredictable/unreliable to his teammates both offensively and defensively (support, short passes, d-responsibility etc). He may need to change up or add to his game, adapt a bit to be more accommodating to help make his line be better and more reliable overall. As I said, you don't win hard fought playoff games with spectacular rushes, cheating and roaming style of play. Need to get into a bit more of a habit of playing more reliable defensively and offensively and learn to CONSISTENTLY grind, work, backcheck hard and win battles all over the ice.
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ujju2
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Yeah after being beat the penalty was probably his best option. I just don't think he should have gotten beat there in the first place. Our defence for the most part did a decent job of keeping the Leafs to the outside last night. That was one of the exceptions.
ujju2
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Maybe under McLellan. I think Tippett has treated Puljujarvi pretty fairly though, so not sure why that comment is necessary.
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Agreed. What does Kassian do now? Score? Nope. PK? Nope. PP? Nope. Hit? Nope. Fight? Nope. Energy guy? Nope.
Put this guys ass on the pine until he decides to show up.
McDNicks17
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It's easy to blame Kassian there, but those kind of mistakes happen when you put guys in situations they aren't used to.
Kassian actually made a nice play to come off the right boards to pick up Matthews. That's McDavid's man and you can see him gliding back into the zone as Kassian f***s up in the corner.
McDavid would be so much more dominant if he at least tried to play some defense.
ChaoticOrange
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I saw that too. Lots of smiles - mostly out of relief I think - but Leon isn't here to win more scoring titles or celebrate random goals. Guy wants a Cup and is obviously pissed with the start to the season.
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Maybe it is an ugly win, but at the same time we have been horrid defensively this year and kept a team that was scoring 3.5 GPG to only 1. They literally have scored 3 goals in every game with 1 5 goal game.
If anyone would've said in the GDT that we'd hold the Leafs to 1 goal with our defensive play this year I'm pretty sure they would've got heckled.
If anyone would've said in the GDT that we'd hold the Leafs to 1 goal with our defensive play this year I'm pretty sure they would've got heckled.
ChaoticOrange
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It's necessary because Kassian has been a complete non factor and thus far there hasn't been anything resembling a consequence for it.
ujju2
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Oh I certainly agree. I'm just saying the Puljujarvi comparison might be unwarranted under Tippett.
That's true. Although they did have a few great chances too that Koskinen absolutely robbed them on as well.
Yup, 1-0 game. Can't remember the context of why he was out at center ice floating back but when you're up 1-0 in the third and Matthews and Marner are on the ice you better try to make sure you're the one back there to defend Matthews as the center and not let someone as unreliable defensively and poor on board battles as Kass to take him. There should have been at least some urgency to get back to hopefully switch off with Kass.
Drivesaitl
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tbh I think something has happened to your appreciation of the game. The bolded is pretty down on the club, and its not typical of you as a poster. You just watched a tight coverage game where players were having to work through the checking. It was tight last night and neither team were gettign a lot. This is the closest the Oilers have had to a competitive lineup in awhile. The additions of Barrie, Kahun, Turris all help us. These being better players than the usual discards we tend to pick up in the offseason. Shore is another solid add and will quietly win fans. You've noticed him already. The D of this club is not nearly as bad as they looked earlier. They've looked better in past couple games because the team is now buying back into checking and 5 man units. I'm a purist, I love close checking hockey so its easier for me to appreciate when the coverage is better. Even on the one GA we had the box out, that was a completely harmless play, Koski created a goal out of it with a pretty amateur goal post seal.
I did mention the positive contributions of the bolded players. Another positive, and this is maybe cynical, but we're seeing enough bottomsix performances to keep Khaira out of the lineup. Jesse also playing well. Lots of plusses this season even if results have not been there. We need guys like Kass, Nuge to wake up and play bigger roles but we know they are capable.
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The problem is that he did earlier in his career to a degree. Now it's all about the highlight reel play and points it seems.
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Drivesaitl
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This was Chiassons best game this season. Very involved and doing the right things without the puck. Was decent pressuring all over the ice and was battling. We need this game from him more often. Another positive is guys like him and Khaira having to legitimately worry about not having jobs or icetime. Don't bring your best and you will be sitting.
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Drivesaitl
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I loved the play, and Nurse has now had several of these so far in the season. Playing with an edge, and if you're going to take a penalty anyway, and that was a really good one to take, you may as well make it worth your while. Don't half ass it if you're getting 2 anyway. Conversely on another open ice hit Nurse let up instead of destroying the guy in a tight 1-0 game because he didn't want to take the penalty there. Good thinking on Nurse part. But he sure is showing some truculence. Opponents are going to have to realize when Nurse is out on the ice.
Drivesaitl
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Hes better when there is boxing out and contain and the Oilers were doing a better job of it. But the one goal he let in was really bad. Harmless play, and that was a putrid goal post seal. No excuse for it either as he had time to set, it wasn't a quick play, that was his "good enough" goalie seal. Koski is lazy in form sometimes. He gets more that way, and less focused and sharp when he's seeing too many games.
Drivesaitl
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McD really not earning his pay now. Really didn't get anything done in the game, gets an assist on an empty net goal, he shouldn't even be out there in that situation. He was also struggling on the dot. At one point faceoffs were 10-2 with Matthews owning him.
A bad look for McD is he's just trying to use his rote scoring rushes time and again and he's getting frustrated under tight checking that he can't do it. I see a difference between Drai trying to persevere through such a game and getting some results vs McD getting angry and packing his game at times. There are periods where McD is doing very little effectively, and that can't happen on his loaded line, or at his pay scale. Conversely Drai bags a goal and was also instrumental bumping/pressuring in front on the Yama goal.
The trouble is McD doesn't really adapt that much. We'll see, but he'll have to in this tight checking season. He got untracked in the one Vancouver game, other than that much of his speed stuff has been shut down, boxed out. He needs to start using other skills, play a simpler game, not always go for the beauty goal. The oilers have to start thinking about traffic on net, get some chaos plays going there and use their skill to control puck in offensive end.
I’m just blown away. It’s pretty negative after a loss, but instead of insightful discussion it’s just 100 people piling on the complainer saying they aren’t a true fan.
then after a win, the complaint posts die off a bit, and then there’s twice as many posts as there ever were of complaints from people complaining that people aren’t complaining anymore.
it’s insanity
