Value of: Tyler Toffoli

[Jerzey Devil]

That’s an incredibly shortsighted way to look at it. You want Fitz to re-sign an already slow and aging Toffoli, not because it makes sense in the long term (it doesn’t), but because with hindsight it would just made him a one year rental? So double down just because?

Sharangovich was a healthy scratch in the playoffs last year. He’s shooting at almost double his % last year. I don’t know: maybe this is the new norm, maybe it’s a career year, but I do know that he now has absolutely nothing to do with what Fitz decides to do long term with Toffoli.

I’ve actually already stated multiple times that he’s good for 30 goals and we’re going to have to replace those goals somehow anyway so might as well just re-sign him.

I don’t know why Devils fans are upset that a goal scorer is only good for scoring goals. That’s the exact reason they traded for him and he’s done exactly what was expected.

But yea, in a year that Fitz didn’t seem to do anything right I’m willing to bet this is exactly how he’s thinking. And he’s already stayed he’s going to try to re-sign him.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Not re-signing Toffoli would mean Fitz traded Sharangovich for a rental and that’s not acceptable.

why do some of our fans pine over this player (Sharangovich) so much? He was bad down the stretch and a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

We know what he is. A streaky player with a great shot. That isn't anything that crazy.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I’ve actually already stated multiple times that he’s good for 30 goals and we’re going to have to replace those goals somehow anyway so might as well just re-sign him.

I don’t know why Devils fans are upset that a goal scorer is only good for scoring goals. That’s the exact reason they traded for him and he’s done exactly what was expected.

But yea, in a year that Fitz didn’t seem to do anything right I’m willing to bet this is exactly how he’s thinking. And he’s already stayed he’s going to try to re-sign him.

He’s good at what he does, I’m not arguing that. That also doesn’t mean re-signing him is a good decision long term. Unless Toffoli is willing to take a sweetheart deal, it’s not worth it.

 

[TrufleShufle]

why do some of our fans pine over this player (Sharangovich) so much? He was bad down the stretch and a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

We know what he is. A streaky player with a great shot. That isn't anything that crazy.

Maybe because you just described Toffoli, but left out being able to PK and also play in the bottom 6 without being out of place?

I'll give back 5 goals over the year if that player could be used around the line up in different situations.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

He’s good at what he does, I’m not arguing that. That also doesn’t mean re-signing him is a good decision long term. Unless Toffoli is willing to take a sweetheart deal, it’s not worth it.

I didn’t say long term. 3-4 years is what I’d offer.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Maybe because you just described Toffoli, but left out being able to PK and also play in the bottom 6 without being out of place?

I'll give back 5 goals over the year if that player could be used around the line up in different situations.

Sharangovich is a middling player. He is getting way more ice time in Calgary than he would in NJ.

good for him, but it really isn't a huge deal that he was dealt. It was clear that his time in NJ had run its course.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I didn’t say long term. 3-4 years is what I’d offer.

4 year would absolutely be too long. And Toffoli already has his cup win, and this is his last chance to really cash in, I don’t think he’s taking a short term deal for anything reasonable for the Devils.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

why do some of our fans pine over this player (Sharangovich) so much? He was bad down the stretch and a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

We know what he is. A streaky player with a great shot. That isn't anything that crazy.

Why are we suddenly praising Ruff’s scraping decisions? From what I understand Devils fans are pissed with Holtz usage.

Trading any young decent piece for a rental isn’t a good move unless you’re going for a cup win or you’re sure you can re-sign the player.

 

[Smitty426]

I didn’t say long term. 3-4 years is what I’d offer.

I didn’t say long term. 3-4 years is what I’d offer.

@ what price per?

 

[TBF1972]

Jersey ain’t making the playoffs, they’re just going to let him walk for free I guess. Idiots over there.

what happened in vancouver. idiots over there as well?

 

[HBK27]

why do some of our fans pine over this player (Sharangovich) so much? He was bad down the stretch and a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

We know what he is. A streaky player with a great shot. That isn't anything that crazy.

Sharangovich seems like a genuinely good guy - an extremely easy player to root for. A 5th round pick that scored 16 and then 24 goals his first two seasons.

Easy to see why fans were attached to him. Yes, he was a streaky player and a healthy scratch last year in the playoffs so it made sense as to why Fitz moved him. The guy also had a newborn which could've affected his play last season and seeing how he's been utilized/performing in Calgary this season and how Ruff has potentially mismanaged Holtz, you have to wonder if he wouldn't have rebounded this season in NJ or under a different coach.

I understand why Fitz dealt Sharangovich and a 3rd to Calgary for Toffoli - made sense at the time even if I wasn't a huge fan of it, but in hindsight that is a trade I would rather undo. Hopefully Fitz is able to deal Toffoli for a good return over the next 2 days to make it more worthwhile.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

@ what price per?

It would probably take 5-6 per. I’d be fine with that for 3-4 years unless it create problems signing Mercer, Hughes, or Nemec in a couple of years.

 

[Fig]

Sharangovich seems like a genuinely good guy - an extremely easy player to root for. A 5th round pick that scored 16 and then 24 goals his first two seasons.

Easy to see why fans were attached to him. Yes, he was a streaky player and a healthy scratch last year in the playoffs so it made sense as to why Fitz moved him. The guy also had a newborn which could've affected his play last season and seeing how he's been utilized/performing in Calgary this season and how Ruff has potentially mismanaged Holtz, you have to wonder if he wouldn't have rebounded this season in NJ or under a different coach.

I understand why Fitz dealt Sharangovich and a 3rd to Calgary for Toffoli - made sense at the time even if I wasn't a huge fan of it, but in hindsight that is a trade I would rather undo. Hopefully Fitz is able to deal Toffoli for a good return over the next 2 days to make it more worthwhile.

I get it. It's a surprise NJD success story. Easy to root for. Always fun to latch on those and keep tabs on a guy even when they're no longer in your org. But sometimes, things transpired the way they did for a reason.

Reminds me of Micheal Ferland for the Flames (Hanifin/Lindholm trade). A fifth rounder who turned into an absolute beast of a power forward/fighter. It still saddens me that Ferdaddy basically LTIRetired at age 27 due to concussions. I'm glad he got the payday he deserved. I'm also glad we didn't have to give him that LTIRetired contract. He hasn't played in almost 4 years and he's only 31 years old right now. Crazy.

 

[dgibb10]

Sharangovich seems like a genuinely good guy - an extremely easy player to root for. A 5th round pick that scored 16 and then 24 goals his first two seasons.

Easy to see why fans were attached to him. Yes, he was a streaky player and a healthy scratch last year in the playoffs so it made sense as to why Fitz moved him. The guy also had a newborn which could've affected his play last season and seeing how he's been utilized/performing in Calgary this season and how Ruff has potentially mismanaged Holtz, you have to wonder if he wouldn't have rebounded this season in NJ or under a different coach.

I understand why Fitz dealt Sharangovich and a 3rd to Calgary for Toffoli - made sense at the time even if I wasn't a huge fan of it, but in hindsight that is a trade I would rather undo. Hopefully Fitz is able to deal Toffoli for a good return over the next 2 days to make it more worthwhile.

His metrics are exactly the same as in NJD, he's just shooting 18% instead of 13% and getting power play time.

 

[TGWL]

@ what price per?

5.7. Don't think anybody should go higher on 4 years.

 

[Forge]

5.7. Don't think anybody should go higher on 4 years.

I think 5.7 is a little optimistic. When you see killorn getting 6.25, palat getting 6 and the cap finally moving, I don't know how his next deal doesn't start with a 6.

I think he'll try for 5 years, settle for 4 and teams have had no issues going to 35, so 4 years make sense.

 

[AvroArrow]

Pending UFA, one trick pony, can’t skate, 31 years old. Is he worth a first?

Scoring goals is a pretty cool trick

 

[Smitty426]

I think 5.7 is a little optimistic. When you see killorn getting 6.25, palat getting 6 and the cap finally moving, I don't know how his next deal doesn't start with a 6.

I think he'll try for 5 years, settle for 4 and teams have had no issues going to 35, so 4 years make sense.

Thats Palat territory! We all ready for that?
I like Palat but not at that #, so I'm a no dog

 

[Devils Army]

I hate the stapling of Toffoli to Jack Hughes. If we get a first I'd take it in a heartbeat. No faith that Fitz will take a good offer for him though. He seems enamored with him and his cement boots.

 

[PG Canuck]

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

First + C prospect would be fine with me, 2nd + B prospect as well

 

[Xirik]

the best thing to happen would be the Flames trading for Toff after all this Markstrom brouhaha.

 

[red devil]

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

Define how multiple picks would look?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

The runner up to Jake Guentzel will be over Toffoli