Waived: Tyler Johnson (upd: clears)

[Aoko]

To be fair, Point's agent received a lot of calls from teams last year and it was kept under their hat for a while.

Of course he did. Just like Sergachev likely is as well.

Doesn't matter how many offer sheets are offered. The RFA has to sign the offer sheet for it to materialize. Good luck with that.

I am extremely confident that all three RFA's want to stay in Tampa for a few more years. Unless a team is offering 8M+. Which I highly doubt, considering what's going on right now in the NHL...

So where does Sergachev and Cirelli end up. Seems like there’s little willingness to help them out

Tampa.

People seem to forget that Kucherov remained unsigned until October. Be patient.

 

[GetFocht]

Is he really? This is the first season since 15-16 where Toffoli has outscored Johnson. Johnson had his worst season and Toffoli was in a contract year. They're very close to being the same player. Toffoli signed during Covid while Johnson's was pre and the cap was expected to continually rise.

Should also mention Toffoli was given first line ice time with Pettersson and Miller whereas Johnson was getting top 9 minutes.

If I had a choice, I would rather have Johnson. He is much more dynamic and a better skater than Toffoli. Toffoli is good at getting in a prime spot to score but he will never win the race to a puck or be able to forecheck relentlessly.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Of course he did. Just like Sergachev likely is as well.

Doesn't matter how many offer sheets are offered. The RFA has to sign the offer sheet for it to materialize. Good luck with that.

I am extremely confident that all three RFA's want to stay in Tampa for a few more years. Unless a team is offering 8M+. Which I highly doubt, considering what's going on right now in the NHL...

I mean how many offer sheets have been signed by other good players over the years? It's not that many because it just doesn't happen very often. It happens most with bad teams because that franchise isn't all that great. They basically just want better. More winning more money or whatever their current franchise isn't offering. I dont see money being the biggest driver for these kids. They will get paid eventually like how we took care of all our other rfas after signing their bridge deal.

These kids are competitors and will want to keep winning with the franchise that helped them get to where they are. They don't owe the franchise anything but I do think loyalty exists. More in hockey than I think any professional sport I've seen. Its especially prevalent in successful sports franchises. Well run franchise like tb is can be hard to leave.

 

[DFC]

A lot depends on whether or not the OS threat is real. Seems JBB is gambling that it isn't.

 

[DropTheGloves]

I wonder if a team like New Jersey will be able to twist BriseBois's arm enough to get something both Cirelli and Gourde for a cost-controlled young forward like Miles Wood. It would obviously hurt to give up two such pieces, but it actually sets Tampa up nicely for Day 1 of the regular season even if Stamkos is out:

Killorn-Point-Kucherov
Goodrow-Johnson-Palat
Wood-Paquette-Coleman
Maroon-Stephens-Joseph
13F, 14F

Hedman-Cernak (3 yrs/$2.5 million)
Sergachev (5 years/$5.5 million)-McDonagh
Coburn-Schenn
7D

Vasilevskiy
McElhinney

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

A lot of the teams with space are still dealing with their own RFAs.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Yeah, not worried about offer sheets. If one of our RFAs starts next season in another team it is because of a trade and not an offer sheet. So many RFAs still unsigned.

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

In typical Brisebois fashion, I expect this all to get sorted out about a week before the season starts.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Brisebois was the dude I wanted as a GM, when Bergevin was named.
He just might be the best GM in the league.
He'll figure it out.

 

[Todd1a]

In typical Brisebois fashion, I expect this all to get sorted out about a week before the season starts.

for sure he won't sign any of our RFA's till about days before training camp or a week before the season

 

[These Are The Days]

The offer sheet meme continues. I swear to God if GM's offer sheeted as much as HF Boards fancied it, Dahlin, Hughes, Svechnikov and Tkachuk would all be wearing different jerseys a year from now because they went through the 2nd act of the HF fantasy and signed the deals and their respective organizations did nothing about it and took the draft picks.


By that point guys fresh off their rookie deals would all be getting offered $5-7 million and not even from their own team

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Is there even any team with cash left to offer sheet anymore?

 

[Fogelhund]

Is there even any team with cash left to offer sheet anymore?

NHL 2020 Cap Tracker

 

[mouser]

So HFboards, where are all the offersheets? Has even one rfa league wide been offered one? Much less signed one? Paging McJedi, who totally has a direct line to Sakic.. What's the hold up bro?

Teams don't actually send "offer sheets" to players for their signature.

Teams can talk to the RFA's about contracts. If another team and the RFA player agree to the terms of a contract then they write up the details in a Offer Sheet and submit it to the NHL and the RFA's team.

Offer Sheets are formal notifications to the RFA's team that the player has agreed to a deal with another team.

 

[Islay1989]

Of course offer sheets don't happen. They are designed to be as ineffective as possible. Basically, the only way you get the player you are targeting is if you overpay for him both contract-wise and in form of picks. In doing so, you basically ruin your own salary structure, run up the cost of keeping your own RFAs etc. The only GMs who can see this as a viable method to add players are those who don't give any thought to the draft or how the team will look in a few years because that will be another guy's problem.

 

[kabidjan18]

I think the RFAs might settle for 1 year deals and gamble on themselves for the following season. There isnt a real offer sheet chance this year with the flat cap. There isnt a lot of room even in Tampa to sign them to the deals they deserve. So they will probably have to settle this year and try for next year for the payday.

 

[Fogelhund]

I think the RFAs might settle for 1 year deals and gamble on themselves for the following season. There isnt a real offer sheet chance this year with the flat cap. There isnt a lot of room even in Tampa to sign them to the deals they deserve. So they will probably have to settle this year and try for next year for the payday.

NHL 2020 Cap Tracker

Actually, a number of teams have room, and a need... Bruins D needs upgrading for example, and have 10mil in cap room currently.

Cernak at $2.1 mil, only costs a third round pick in compensation.
Sergachev at $6.5 mil, only costs a first and third round pick.

Weegar from Florida, if offered at $4 mil, only costs a second round pick.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

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Actually, a number of teams have room, and a need... Bruins D needs upgrading for example, and have 10mil in cap room currently.

Cernak at $2.1 mil, only costs a third round pick in compensation.
Sergachev at $6.5 mil, only costs a first and third round pick.

Weegar from Florida, if offered at $4 mil, only costs a second round pick.

Why not just trade for Nate Schmidt for a 3rd+7th? Only the Cernak OS makes sense given what happened yesterday.

 

[serp]

Offer sheets are not happening but it'll be tricky for Tampa to get money moved to fit in all the RFA's . They're going to have to add alot imho and all the NTC's they handed out are really in the way now.

 

[LeapOnOver]

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Actually, a number of teams have room, and a need... Bruins D needs upgrading for example, and have 10mil in cap room currently.

Cernak at $2.1 mil, only costs a third round pick in compensation.
Sergachev at $6.5 mil, only costs a first and third round pick.

Weegar from Florida, if offered at $4 mil, only costs a second round pick.

Wow, Bruins should offer sheet Sergachev. Tired of Tampa getting great contracts because of tax benefits. They should feel the pinch like everyone else. The funny thing is I thought they were going to need to trade Johnson the first time they had to extend him, and instead they tried to keep him. Got a cup to show for it so guess ya can't point fingers.

 

[Fogelhund]

Why not just trade for Nate Schmidt for a 3rd+7th? Only the Cernak OS makes sense given what happened yesterday.

Nothing makes sense, after yesterday.

It seems probable that some GM's were asleep at the wheel, and will be shocked with the return Vegas received. Note also, Schmidt has a 10 team no trade list, and given how much cap room teams have, and which of those need a D man, it wouldn't be hard to put Vegas in a corner, and essentially select your team.

 

[Cowumbus]

Johnson + 1st for Dubinsky

 

[Makaveli]

I think once the rest of the free agent forwards sign, teams will start calling on TJ. Tampa will have to attach something to him to get someone to bite without any retention, but he's still a good player that can help a lot of teams.

 

[AfroThunder396]

I wonder if a team like New Jersey will be able to twist BriseBois's arm enough to get something both Cirelli and Gourde for a cost-controlled young forward like Miles Wood. It would obviously hurt to give up two such pieces, but it actually sets Tampa up nicely for Day 1 of the regular season even if Stamkos is out:

Killorn-Point-Kucherov
Goodrow-Johnson-Palat
Wood-Paquette-Coleman
Maroon-Stephens-Joseph
13F, 14F

Hedman-Cernak (3 yrs/$2.5 million)
Sergachev (5 years/$5.5 million)-McDonagh
Coburn-Schenn
7D

Vasilevskiy
McElhinney

I would do that trade, but I don't think Fitzgerald would. As tempting as Cirelli is, that Gourde contract is absolutely horrendous. TBH I can't see NJ taking any contracts with big term. Fitzgerald keeps emphasizing that he's playing the long game and that he wants to add core pieces in the same age bracket as Hughes and Hischier.

I can't imagine that after a whole summer talking about patience and growth that he would suddenly decide to take on a big albatross. I think it's much more likely we see the moves that we have seen in the past week - shrewd trades for good but expendable players at really low prices.

 

[RealityHurts]

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Look at the tanking!!

They should be penalized for that.. no integrity.