Player Discussion Tyler Benson

[TheRebuild]

Is Yamamoto going to continue in the top 6 when he inevitably regresses?

Make sure to let us know what that happens.

 

[space321]

Make sure to let us know what that happens.

You think he's going to sustain an on ice PDO of 110?

 

[Samus44]

A few more.

Just something a bit off with Benson so far and he needs to get past the idolizing and pinching himself stage. His comments after the Sharks game isn't necessarily what you want to hear. He talks about how surreal it is looking across at Patty Marleau and Thornton. Mentions he has lots of support with 20 family, friends cheering him on.

That's nice and all but it doesn't speak to inner confidence of a player being totally ready, mentally, to be in the show. if your confidence is nailed on you're not thinking about 20 people in the stands cheering you on, you're thinking about you're here, you deserve it, and you're going to show the team your hand. Just like Draisaitl did, just like Bear did, just like Yama has been doing. With the latter Yama translated his excitement into energy, intensity, rabid puck pursuit. Good for him. Show your hand.

Tippett said Benson had a s0-so first game. lumped it in with the bad performance by the club. Benson said he was playing safe. That speaks to possible trepidation as well.

Theres also a comment that Benson's Center, Haas, an accomplished pro player got only 2mins in his first NHL game. Benson got almost 10mins, and didn't look good in those minutes.

When asked what was most memorable about your first NHL game Benson's answer is actually listening to the National anthem. He actually said that. A lot of players would be talking about a scoring chance, or maybe even a goal or point in their first game. Benson was talking about a non hockey moment in a game he did nothing in.

Dude this is real life, he's a real person not a programmed robot. He's playing for his hometown team against divisional rivals Thornton and Marleau who've been lighting it up his entire life, of course it's surreal. I've heard lots of guys talk about being awe struck away the first time they faced Gretzky. Media quotes generally offer very little insight into the complexity, thoughts, or drive of a person. It's a provoked snippet of someones thought process not something that defines who they are. He's a guy who's succeeded at every level he's played at while dedicating his life to hockey, he's got plenty of drive and self belief. The NHL is hard, it's a big leap and it's tough to find a rhythm playing so sporadically. He'll almost certainly be better in a bigger opportunity having had this experience. It's normal.

 

[SwedishFire]

Paste Neal on the PP and paste Khaira on the PK and limit their minutes at evens to as few as possible... win-win for the team.

Make a "3rd" line, who got the least miniutes, with Khaira Haas (Tippet dont like him anyways) Neal. Ice them 5 min in EV 5 v 5. Let Haas , Khaira PK. Neal get his PP. Why not try Haas on PP2?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Dude this is real life, he's a real person not a programmed robot. He's playing for his hometown team against divisional rivals Thornton and Marleau who've been lighting it up his entire life, of course it's surreal. I've heard lots of guys talk about being awe struck away the first time they faced Gretzky. Media quotes generally offer very little insight into the complexity, thoughts, or drive of a person. It's a provoked snippet of someones thought process not something that defines who they are. He's a guy who's succeeded at every level he's played at while dedicating his life to hockey, he's got plenty of drive and self belief. The NHL is hard, it's a big leap and it's tough to find a rhythm playing so sporadically. He'll almost certainly be better in a bigger opportunity having had this experience. It's normal.

All I'm saying is its conventional wisdom that you have to move very quickly from such worship of opponents and pinching yourself to accepting you are actually playing against them and worthy of such. you also have to move very quickly away from being overtly nervous about the prospect.

Besides which you are stating platitudes with the bolded as much as I am. That applies to every player that has success in the AHL. The NHL is a different beast.

We're talking about a player that didn't even "find a rhythm" in prospects, TC, or Exhibition season. I don't take one piece of information in isolation. Benson is near 22 and he hasn't yet showed any evidence of being able to slow the game down at this level. He's had plenty of opportunity each preseason and offseason to better prepare for the NHL reality.

 

[McDNicks17]

You think he's going to sustain an on ice PDO of 110?

Analytically, that line has been the best line in hockey since it was put together.

That PDO(which is largely due to onSV%) doesn't say they're going to regress from that to not top 6 players.

 

[Samus44]

All I'm saying is its conventional wisdom that you have to move very quickly from such worship of opponents and pinching yourself to accepting you are actually playing against them and worthy of such. you also have to move very quickly away from being overtly nervous about the prospect.

Besides which you are stating platitudes with the bolded as much as I am. That applies to every player that has success in the AHL. The NHL is a different beast.

We're talking about a player that didn't even "find a rhythm" in prospects, TC, or Exhibition season. I don't take one piece of information in isolation. Benson is near 22 and he hasn't yet showed any evidence of being able to slow the game down at this level. He's had plenty of opportunity each preseason and offseason to better prepare for the NHL reality.

And all i'm saying is you have no idea about what he was thinking based on one quote. Also he got very little opportunity this training camp, i have no idea how one could argue otherwise. He's in his 21 year old season, he's a 2nd rounder, it's normal. He may not make it but that doesn't mean it's reasonable to criticize a guy and suggest you've got proof of anything based on that quote.

 

[Drivesaitl]

And all i'm saying is you have no idea about what he was thinking based on one quote. Also he got very little opportunity this training camp, i have no idea how one could argue otherwise. He's in his 21 year old season, he's a 2nd rounder, it's normal. He may not make it but that doesn't mean it's reasonable to criticize a guy and suggest you've got proof of anything based on that quote.

I never suggested anything of the kind. you apparently read it that way. Its discussion, on a discussion board, and was clearly framed as speculation.

 

[Aerchon]

With Neal out, I think, and McDavid as well I think HE should be recalled again.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Benson/Gambardella/Currie (and even Marody imo but that's not a commonly held opinion I realize) should all have shots in the lineup... just rotate and keep the good 'uns.

There's gold in them thar hills of Bako... just have to prospect around a bit to find it.

 

[oilexport]

Just quit. Lmao goes from super scout to super MD in a matter of posts.

Ya, so.....

 

[oilexport]

Last update I heard was that it was a bruise.

Has there been some additional info today?

I rest my case.

 

[FlameChampion]

I would probably just leave him in Bako even with the McDavid injury. The coach doesnt feel comfortable playing him whether its valid or not, I dont know. I would call up Granlund.

 

[guymez]

I rest my case.

Yup...turned out to be more.

So is expecting the worst now a go to strategy?

 

[oilexport]

Yup...turned out to be more.

So is expecting the worst now a go to strategy?

Hahaha, I hope not.....but we might as well trade nudge, nurse, and drai for picks ? Just kidding....I think....

 

[guymez]

Hahaha, I hope not.....but we might as well trade nudge, nurse, and drai for picks ? Just kidding....I think....

Call me an eternal optimist but I see some positives coming out of this.
I am willing to bet that the team will be executing the system with a new level of commitment.

I am hoping we will see a very determined and committed group of players for the next 2 weeks.

 

[Samus44]

I never suggested anything of the kind. you apparently read it that way. Its discussion, on a discussion board, and was clearly framed as speculation.

Why speculate so much on something so innocuous? To make any of the broad "speculations" that you did from that quote is preposterous. I just don't get the value in perceiving that a minor quote could be proof that he lacks mental fortitude. I respect you but your thinking on this honestly makes no sense to me, it's such a wildly assumptive conclusion to even ponder.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Why speculate so much on something so innocuous? To make any of the broad "speculations" that you did from that quote is preposterous. I just don't get the value in perceiving that a minor quote could be proof that he lacks mental fortitude. I respect you but your thinking on this honestly makes no sense to me, it's such a wildly assumptive conclusion to even ponder.

We all have our moments. Benson really could work on his statements though. Not like I'm singling it out in isolation. Since he was 15 he says things like surreal, anxious, nervous. More of a pet peeve than anything how he words things I guess. But the team and other beat reporters have mentioned nerves in relation to the player as well. just saying. I do think he has the yips, but without more its jmo

 

[oilexport]

Call me an eternal optimist but I see some positives coming out of this.
I am willing to bet that the team will be executing the system with a new level of commitment.

I am hoping we will see a very determined and committed group of players for the next 2 weeks.

I'm with ya, in spirit. Teams usually rally and play well when something like this happens. I cant see it lasting.

I'm afraid we just became sellers at deadline.

 

[guymez]

I'm with ya, in spirit. Teams usually rally and play well when something like this happens. I cant see it lasting.

I'm afraid we just became sellers at deadline.

Not a chance.

 

[Senor Catface]

"Guess who's back"

 

[oobga]

Hope Benson had fun with his Condor's buddies

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

 

[OfCorsiDid]

I hope the plan is to play him in the top 6 and not in the PB.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Talk about a golden opportunity to step up. Not sure who he’s going to play with since our top line is insane.