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Yea.. horrible shot and minimal hands..
Yeah, how's Robbie Shremp projecting on the Oilers depth chart this year?
Yea.. horrible shot and minimal hands..
If Paajarvi didn't have good hands would he be able to pull that **** off in the first place? That's the point.
Pajaarvi has solid passing skills, a very good shot, effortless skater and the frame and the ability one day to excel at both ends of the rinks. It really is a little Hossa-lite. He's basically a shoe-in to be a 60 point two way Forward.
What makes you think that? Only 49 players had 60 points or more this past season. Paajarvi isn't considered a high-end offensive player and lacks the basic offensive tools to put up such high numbers while still playing a solid two-way game. Also the chances of him getting 60+ points on the wing while playing for the Oilers is very low. It looks like Hall, Eberle and RNH will all be 60+ point forwards one day. Since they are better offensive players than Paajarvi, they will be given more oppourtunity to score at even strength and on the powerplay. I don't think Paajarvi has the natural talent to put up 1st line winger numbers while playing 2nd line minutes with 2nd PP time.
Turris has the higher offensive potential. I see him turning into a 30G-40A-70P centerman if all goes correctly for him. Paajarvi? A two-way winger that puts up 40-50P a season.
Completely irrelevent to the discussion, but thanks for contributing.Yeah, how's Robbie Shremp projecting on the Oilers depth chart this year?
Fair enough.. here is some examples of him in game time situations..Congrats. Give me enough time and I bet you I could do what he did in the shootout too. Still doesn't mean he can get around defenders better than anyone else. You can have the best hands in the world, but when is the last time you saw a move like that during a game?
No it isn't. Rob Schremp (according to your definition of Pajaarvi's skillset) had phenomenal hands, pretty good speed, and a great shot. Look how far that has gotten him so far.Completely irrelevent to the discussion, but thanks for contributing.
Fair enough.. here is some examples of him in game time situations..
0:40 / 0:58 / 1:47 / 2:01 = good examples of Paajarvi's so called "bad shot"
This whole video pretty much proves this whole thing wrong.. Once he gains some confidence he'll be making plays just as he did in Timra. And look at some of the snipes in this video.
Like I said before, that comment was just completely out of the blue.
No it isn't. Rob Schremp (according to your definition of Pajaarvi's skillset) had phenomenal hands, pretty good speed, and a great shot. Look how far that has gotten him so far.
No it doesn't. Your videos have proved nothing towards the argument of Pajaarvi. Almost all of those goals were on one timers where he had a clear open net or dirty rebounds.
You guys do realize that he posted those Paajarvi highlights to show that he has decent hands and shot, not that he's going to be an allstar or better than Turris. It doesn't matter whether it was a regular season game or not, that was not the point.
Completely irrelevent to the discussion, but thanks for contributing.
Fair enough.. here is some examples of him in game time situations..
0:40 / 0:58 / 1:47 / 2:01 = good examples of Paajarvi's so called "bad shot"
This whole video pretty much proves this whole thing wrong.. Once he gains some confidence he'll be making plays just as he did in Timra. And look at some of the snipes in this video.
Like I said before, that comment was just completely out of the blue.
What makes you think that? Only 49 players had 60 points or more this past season. Paajarvi isn't considered a high-end offensive player and lacks the basic offensive tools to put up such high numbers while still playing a solid two-way game. Also the chances of him getting 60+ points on the wing while playing for the Oilers is very low. It looks like Hall, Eberle and RNH will all be 60+ point forwards one day. Since they are better offensive players than Paajarvi, they will be given more oppourtunity to score at even strength and on the powerplay. I don't think Paajarvi has the natural talent to put up 1st line winger numbers while playing 2nd line minutes with 2nd PP time.
Turris has the higher offensive potential. I see him turning into a 30G-40A-70P centerman if all goes correctly for him. Paajarvi? A two-way winger that puts up 40-50P a season.
What? Paajarvi has been considered a player with alot of Offensive tools. His production at every level up until last year has been of someone capable of putting up good stats in the NHL. He has world class skating, capable of controlling the puck to a fairly high level, a good shot and will drive to the net well. His stat line last year for a rookie who recieved limited time and was adjusting to NA was solid. Expect an increase in totals.
It's a little naive and borderline ridiculous to say a 20 yr old prospect with clearly identified solid Offensive hockey skills that scored 34 points in his 1st year after limited time/adjusting to a different culture doesn't have the potential to hit 60 points.
Turris may have higher potential, but he's going to find it tougher to get there.
What? Paajarvi has been considered a player with alot of Offensive tools. His production at every level up until last year has been of someone capable of putting up good stats in the NHL. He has world class skating, capable of controlling the puck to a fairly high level, a good shot and will drive to the net well. His stat line last year for a rookie who recieved limited time and was adjusting to NA was solid. Expect an increase in totals.
It's a little naive and borderline ridiculous to say a 20 yr old prospect with clearly identified solid Offensive hockey skills that scored 34 points in his 1st year after limited time/adjusting to a different culture doesn't have the potential to hit 60 points.
Turris may have higher potential, but he's going to find it tougher to get there.
By "good" you are probably referring to the speed of his shot, which is not bad at all, but it's not very accurate and doesn't find it's way to the mesh nearly enough. 8.3% shooting percentage is pretty terrible, it's good for 336th in the league. I agree his speed is great and he does drive the net occasionally, but his hands are suspect. To score 60 points in this league you have to have an above average set of mitts. Most of the goals he scored this season were garbage goals around the net. If Paajarvi is going to become the 60-70 point two-way winger Oilers fans think he will become, he'll need to score skilled goals sometime. Any NHL player can score goals in the slot if given the puck. I'm not sure he has the hockey sense, hands or passing ability to make up for his lack of scoring.
Of course he has the potential to hit 60 points, I just don't think he'll reach it. 60 may not seem like a big number but less than 50 players managed to hit that number in 2010/11. I can name a lot of players with more offensive skill than Paajarvi that might not ever put up 60 points in a single season.
Uh no. He won't play on Edmonton's top line, so I doubt he gets enough icetime to every score a ppg. Unless you mean 5 points in 5 games.Paajarvi has all the tools to be a perpetual top-10 PPG guy in the NHL. Except for the hockey sense that is. He has to learn how to play in-tight and in the corners.
If he learns that, its Paajarvi for sure.
If not, give me Turris. His role will increase alot this year.
He has great speed and size, but unlike Hall I don't see the drive and will to score. He has a good shot but the release is painfully slow at times. He also plays soft at times, I remember him a few times in scrums taking punches with no retaliation...very Sedin-like (which I don't like).And how many of them have his speed and size? It's about the total package not just who has the best dangles.