TSN ranks the top 25 NHL players of all time

[Bertuzzzi44]

OV & Jagr Top 10 All Time. Ovechkin has a realistic shot at climbing to no. 5 (especially if he hits 800 goals in this era).

1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Bobby Orr
4. Gordie Howe
5. Maurice Richard
6. Jean Beliveau
7. Jaromir Jagr
8. Sidney Crosby
9. Alexander Ovechkin
10. Bobby Hull
11. Doug Harvey
12. Howie Morenz
13. Guy Lafleur
14. Mark Messier
15. Dominik Hasek
16. Eddie Shore
17. Patrick Roy
18. Ray Bourque
19. Nicklas Lidstrom
20. Terry Sawchuck
21. Phil Esposito
22. Stan Mikita
23. Joe Sakic
24. Jacque Plante
25. Dennis Potvin
26. Steve Yzerman
27. Glen Hall
28. Larry Robinson
29. Martin Brodeur
30. Peter Forsberg
31. Teemu Selanne
32. Mike Bossy
33. Bobby Clarke
34. Marcel Dionne
35. Ron Francis
36. Brian Trottier
37. Red Kelly
38. Evgeni Malkin
39. Sergei Federov
40. Brett Hull
41. Pavel Bure
42. Ted Lindsay
43. Chris Chelios
44. Ken Dryden
45. Frank Mavolich
46. Paul Coffey
47. Eric Lindros
48. Jari Kurri
49. Patrick Kane
50. Henri Richard
51. Chris Pronger
52. Brian Leetch
53. Milt Schmidt
54. Scott Neidermayer
55. Scott Stevens
56. Mike Modano
57. Luc Robitalle
58. Mats Sundin
59. Ken Dryden
60. Duncan Keith

 

[SillyRabbit]

Jagr is hilariously low on their list, he’s easily top 10.

 

[Boxscore]

Overall, not bad for a TSN list. Although, I would bump Jagr up a bit.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

I take it most would agree both Matthews and Marner can be slotted into the mid teens by now?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

ok you have proven me wrong. but how good were they still tbf ? better than all players from the past 50 years? not on the list? maybe top 25 players who were great/helped grow the game is a better title for the article

Howie Morenz's 190 adjusted points in 1927-1928 are the highest of all time.

Wayne Gretzky is 2nd with 170.

 

[48g90a138pts]

OV Top 10 All Time. IMO Has a realistic shot at climbing to no. 5 (especially if he hits 800 goals in this era).

1. Wayne Gretzky
2. Mario Lemieux
3. Bobby Orr
4. Gordie Howe
5. Maurice Richard
6. Jean Beliveau
7. Bobby Hull
8. Jaromir Jagr
9. Sidney Crosby
10. Alexander Ovechkin
11. Doug Harvey
12. Howie Morenz
13. Guy Lafleur
14. Mark Messier
15. Dominik Hasek
16. Eddie Shore
17. Patrick Roy
18. Ray Bourque
19. Nicklas Lidstrom
20. Terry Sawchuck
21. Phil Esposito
22. Stan Mikita
23. Joe Sakic
24. Jacque Plante
25. Dennis Potvin
26. Steve Yzerman
27. Glen Hall
28. Larry Robinson
29. Martin Brodeur
30. Peter Forsberg
31. Teemu Selanne
32. Mike Bossy
33. Bobby Clarke
34. Marcel Dionne
35. Ron Francis
36. Brian Trottier
37. Red Kelly
38. Evgeni Malkin
39. Sergei Federov
40. Brett Hull
41. Pavel Bure
42. Ted Lindsay
43. Chris Chelios
44. Ken Dryden
45. Frank Mavolich
46. Paul Coffey
47. Eric Lindros
48. Jari Kurri
49. Patrick Kane
50. Henri Richard
51. Chris Pronger
52. Brian Leetch
53. Milt Schmidt
54. Scott Neidermayer
55. Scott Stevens
56. Mike Modano
57. Luc Robitalle
58. Mats Sundin
59. Ken Dryden
60. Duncan Keith

This thread been bumped after 10 months?

I prefer to wait until a player has finished his career before putting them on a list. Players can rise or fall before their career is over.

OV most likely will move up by the time he's done.

 

[snu22fint]

I always get mad when I see lists like this. But then you have to remind yourself that this list is not the best 25 players of all time. It's the 25 best careers relative to their peers without factor in stuff like quality of teammates and quality of opponents. With that mindset it makes sense to put someone like Howe above someone like Lemieux. And it make sense to put Sakic above Forsberg etc etc.

They also seems to value team accomplishment such as cups pretty high which is weird.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

I always get mad when I see lists like this. But then you have to remind yourself that this list is not the best 25 players of all time. It's the 25 best careers relative to their peers without factor in stuff like quality of teammates and quality of opponents. With that mindset it makes sense to put someone like Howe above someone like Lemieux. And it make sense to put Sakic above Forsberg etc etc.

They also seems to value team accomplishment such as cups pretty high which is weird.

Howe was better and greater than Lemieux.

 

[snu22fint]

Howe was better and greater than Lemieux.

In what way?
If you remove Gretzky, everyone would put Lemieux as the best player of all time. You know it's true.
I'm not even convinced Gretzky was a better player than Lemieux. Better career, yes, better player? Pretty close.

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

When you see names like Shore ahead of Bourque and Lidström, as well as 4 goalies ahead of Hasek, you know this list was made of 120-year old canadians.

 

[snu22fint]

When you see names like Shore ahead of Bourque and Lidström, as well as 4 goalies ahead of Hasek, you know this list was made of 120-year old canadians.

Pretty much.

 

[Nick Hansen]

Sawchuk at #10 is the most insane thing of the list.

 

[Tuna Tatarrrrrr]

Lol. Seriously.

The Wings were as great for as long as they were BECAUSE of Lidstrom, who imo, is the greatest defenseman of all time.

Only Dead Wings fans would think this. He was certainly not better than Bobby Orr and Bourque was also better.

 

[KJoe88]

Only Dead Wings fans would think this. He was certainly not better than Bobby Orr and Bourque was also better.

In your opinion.

And I like how you bring up ‘Dead Wings’ as some sort of insult.

As if the the Habs have done anything of significance the last million years.

 

[Tuna Tatarrrrrr]

In your opinion.

And I like how you bring up ‘Dead Wings’ as some sort of insult.

As if the the Habs have done anything of significance the last million years.

LOL I think most agree here that Bobby Orr is the greatest defenseman ever and Bourque was better than Lidstrom. You are in the tiny minority who thinks the opposite.

And no matter if the Habs are great or not, they will always be the most significant team ever in NHL history.

 

[Newsworthy]

Bad List.

 

[BrockLobster]

Aside from hasek no goalie should be on that list.

 

[strattonius]

I dont understand how Crosby and Ovechkin are so low. The game is bigger than it's ever been - the fact that these players are dominating this era is more impressive to me than what Beliveau or Richard did.

Who cares how many cups you have in a 6 team league. Dinosaurs made this list.

 

[Bedards Dad]

In your opinion.

And I like how you bring up ‘Dead Wings’ as some sort of insult.

As if the the Habs have done anything of significance the last million years.

He is right. Lindstrom was great, but Orr was far better

 

[Corto]

Jagr is at 23 but Crosby is at 8. lol

 

[Kale Hulls]

I take it most would agree both Matthews and Marner can be slotted into the mid teens by now?

They both should probably be in the top 10 considering what has gone on in the last 24 hours. Tavares, Marleau, Nylander, Kadri,
Reilly, Kapanen, Gardiner, Andersen, Hymen and possibly Ennis should also be in the top 10.

I realize that that is 11 players (possibly 12 if Ennis squeeks in) but I know that we are witnessing greatness that is going to shatter the principals of reality at any moment.

 

[Ducks76]

Where is Brett Hull? Jagr only 23???? Ridiculous!

 

[Ducks76]

I don t like those kind of Rankings! I think they must to seperate this in Skaters and Goalies. Best seperate in offense,defense and goalies.

 

[Byron Bitz]

These old players don’t belong on this list, players are way better today. If you send a guy like kuznetsov or Gaudreau back in time to play against guys like Howie Moretz and Eddie Shore they would dominate.

 

[gretskidoo]

LoL. I've just noticed that those so-called experts put "cups" as one of the factors on this list. Probably "experts" think that hockey is some kind of tennis or badminton. Sure they don't know that Gretzky never won a cup without Edmonton, while Edmonot won it without Gretzky. Thats all you need to know about an influence of one player on wining SC.

Cups only matter when they want to put the player on the lists. See Malkin.

Not that I really think Malkin should be on this specific one, but if Crosby and Ovi are..