Exactly. No one was even discussing how well of a GM he was (although he did have a hand in a Stanley Cup with Anaheim as their GM, but again that's besides the point). This guy gave insights into what goes on with GMs, owners, analytics guys, pro scouts, leaks to the media, negotiations with other GMs, and what typically goes on with all of these parties that you just won't get anywhere else. At times he names names, and is unusually blunt/honest with his answers, almost to a fault. His delivery is also entertaining and to the point. I didn't even know this was a regular segment but will for sure be tuning in again. Just gives you some exceptional insight into the perspective from the suits that is pretty interesting, at least to me. Of course it doesn't mean that this is how ALL organizations operate or even this is how one should operate a team in order to succeed - nor is this the vibe he puts out there. Just b/c our Leafs team wasn't terribly successful during his tenure doesn't somehow mean I'm going to hate everything to do with the man lol.
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Exactly. No one was even discussing how well of a GM he was (although he did have a hand in a Stanley Cup with Anaheim as their GM, but again that's besides the point). This guy gave insights into what goes on with GMs, owners, analytics guys, pro scouts, leaks to the media, negotiations with other GMs, and what typically goes on with all of these parties that you just won't get anywhere else. At times he names names, and is unusually blunt/honest with his answers, almost to a fault. His delivery is also entertaining and to the point. I didn't even know this was a regular segment but will for sure be tuning in again. Just gives you some exceptional insight into the perspective from the suits that is pretty interesting, at least to me. Of course it doesn't mean that this is how ALL organizations operate or even this is how one should operate a team in order to succeed - nor is this the vibe he puts out there. Just b/c our Leafs team wasn't terribly successful during his tenure doesn't somehow mean I'm going to hate everything to do with the man lol.
Give him credits, he has been around long around to know whats going on in the League. I do find that a lot of what he said now is the past thinking and pretty sure he knows the game(not just playing style but mentality of players are changing) but he wont' admit it.
Players are becoming more like those NBA players and this all started with stars sitting out ASG and even if you have to make them sit for a game, these players will gladly take it with a smile. Sooner or later, I can see these stars and even teams might sit them out in back to back or just dress them for a few shifts to rest them. I mentioned this on the Raptors thread and stated I really can't stand Basketball players sitting out regular season games bc they might be too tired... I understand they want to be fresh and be in playoffs and all, but if I am paying to attend that game and see that Durant, Kawhi, Curry Lebron or whoever are sitting b/c the team need to rest them for playoffs, I will be pretty piss off. There is a good chance the game I am going might be the only game I can afford to go that season. I would rather teams make up some mickey mouse excuses than plainly state-we need to rest him for playoffs. The sad thing is a lot of fans are okay with this b/c it will bring playoff success.
Anyhow, the trend these young players are heading is like the NBA and I think within 6 year(when these new corps of players become UFA), a few of them might get together and join a Super Team like Lebron and the Heats. I would have said this offseason with Karlsson, Panarin, Bob, Stone, Duchense, but I just don't think any teams is preparing for that-capwise. Imagine a team having 45mil cap space this offseason. I would OS Point for like 14mil, then sign Stone(11mil), Bob(11mil) and Karlsson(11mil). You get a 1c, 1W, 1D and starting goalie in one summer.
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Well I just don't care what he says or does. The fact is that we don't know if he's even telling the truth. I don't just take people's word for it because they've been a GM before.
To me he just wants attention so someone else will give him a job, he did the same thing before he went to Calgary and Anaheim
To me he just wants attention so someone else will give him a job, he did the same thing before he went to Calgary and Anaheim
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I did kind of like the latest 'The Leaf Report' podcast with Mirtle and Siegel. Some fair points about the trip and the current state of things. The road trip wasn't insanely good, but it was fine overall. And the blueline feels like a weird battle between Dubas and Babcock. Muzzin is brought in with the expectation that he's on the top pair. Whether he's willing to move over or Rielly moves over, you bump down Hainsey and all balances out better. But Hainsey is Babcock's prized good pro so he's our top pair RD (who still plays on his off side anyways). And we're just locked in with Rielly, Gardiner, Muzzin on the left side.
Sort of agree there may not be any moves the Leafs end up making. If you add a D without moving one that's just going to toss Dermott from the lineup.
Sort of agree there may not be any moves the Leafs end up making. If you add a D without moving one that's just going to toss Dermott from the lineup.
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The part I liked in the end where they contemplated moving Kadri + Z for Spurgeon. Staal should be coming back too. That's a deal I'd do
O dog is becoming really hard to listen to, he's so obnoxious and almost sounds like he's about to throw a tantrum half the time when he speaks.
Also, Hayes and Odog claiming that Duchesne is only a 60 pt player? He already has almost 60 in only 50 games.
Also, Hayes and Odog claiming that Duchesne is only a 60 pt player? He already has almost 60 in only 50 games.
First rule of this thread is never side with Noodles regardless of how sane/true it may be. You'll get flamed.
And to be fair, in 10 years in the league he's had 2 seasons (3 if you include this one) over 60 points.
Also, why in the world did Duchene get a video tribute yesterday?? One and a half seasons with a franchise warrants a video tribute? Comical.
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Well he had 70 points once in his career and he is averaging 62 points in an 82 game season in his career. Sure looks like a 60 point a season player on a good team to me. He has played 705 games in the NHL and he is as far as you can be away from a consistent player.
Yes but you can't just look at the raw numbers. In his first 5 seasons he was trending toward being a legit star player and in his 4th and 5th seasons was almost a ppg player and would have had well over 60 in his 4th seasons had he not only played 47 games. He regressed big time for three seasons when that whole team went to shit and then late last year he was turning it up again in Ottawa and this year he's been great. I think the way he is playing this season is much more indicative of his true potential than his last three I Colorado.
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because Burke is into truculence
penalty box minutes as a positive, instead of hating them
But, he is a sharp tack, clearly does not suffer fools lightly, and does have insight - a man of some substance
But do note concerns with getting rental players and trading away youth. Trading away kids is something we should condemn
anyone can go into Wikipedia and edit the content. I take nothing from that site as factual. Maybe look up the history of CHCH TV in Hamilton Ontario. Ballard changed the TV contract to another network, I believe it was CITY TV and they had their own people Jim Tatti, etc.
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CTV was doing mid-week Leaf games in 1972, and Bill Hewitt worked play-by-play. I know because I was watching them as a wee lad. But if you don't believe me, take it from someone else who was around back then:
Leafs of 1977-78 – Part 1
November/77 Toronto Star story:
So obviously Bill Hewitt was kept on by CHCH, where he stayed until 1981 when he got sick.
Hughson never did a Leaf game in the 70s.
I don't see a date on your newspaper clipping, Hughson did the wednesday night game for CHCH in the 70's
Your Fake News.
Your Fake News.
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Hughson was born in 56 in BC. Why would he be calling Leafs games as a teenager?
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In conclusion, you dislike the man personally, despite having never met him, nor him doing anything to you, and so nothing he says or does can ever be of utility or sufficient.
Good to know.
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That's usually how I feel about attention ******.
And it Burke so it's easier to dislike him. he's the Donald Trump of GMs.
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In other news looking forward to Hayes and Noodles reaction to O's face shot glitch from last night
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I don't listen to Leafs Lunch all that often, but I'm tuning in now... Dreger just said something elaborate, talking about the leafs 4th line and what not... and then Andi goes off on a tangent throwing Button under the bus for coughing without turning of his mic. Andi looked like a real amateur (and a bit of a prick) there...
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Great comparison.
The more I think about it, it really is the perfect comparison. In business a few successes, lots of failure. Transition into tv talking head (politics). Is a massive attention seeker with a big ego. "Tell's it like it it is" common claim from his supporters. Offers no evidence that it actually is, assumes we all just trust him. Often attacks people he doesn't like.
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