Definitely, don't think Vatanen is available. Not to mention it would kill our LD depth and make us stacked at RD instead. If you want to dream, dream of a Fowler+Trouba double-trade by Holland. That'll happen right after hell freezes over.I still would love to trade DDK+ for Trouba and then someone for Vatanen, but it's a major pipe dream.
Not really surprising I guess, but figured it was worth mentioning.
Kenny should ask if he wanna play for us.
once a player asks for a trade and its made public the return more often than not is less than half what is believed it will be
salary would have to go the other way
figure tatar plus smith plus a decent pick
i am positive whatever team trades for him will "get a steal of a deal" when its finally announced when compared to what people thought it would take
I agree that Jets fans will be upset with whatever they probably end up getting. That said, Tatar and Smith is really, really easy to beat, and we *still* couldn't sign him. Short of them taking back salary equivalent to what Trouba's asking for, we can't make the trade, period.
Super glad we didn't hang onto any cap space though; where's the chorus of "why not use up all of your cap space immediately anyways" posters?
Mantha + 1st? Any other year I'd do it without thinking twice but with the potential of Detroit being very bad idk how I feel about potentially trading away our first lottery pick in nearly 3 decades.
We have no chance with Ken Holland, even if we were on his short list or whatever the hell he's using.
When was the last time we swung a trade like that?
Mantha + 1st? Any other year I'd do it without thinking twice but with the potential of Detroit being very bad idk how I feel about potentially trading away our first lottery pick in nearly 3 decades.
I would go AA+Cholo+1st+2nd
Offer they can't refuse for a kid that this team needs in the worst way.
Nyquist, DD, Smith, AA and 2 first rounders. I doubt a trade will happen without Larkin being the starting point. Too many other teams out there with better young talent than us to offer.
That's a haul if you're targeting OEL or Hedman. Waaaaay overpayment for a player who's forced his teams hand for a trade
Overpay to get this done. The defense is in shambles with no hope on the horizon. Then we luck out and a young local kid asks for a trade... You can't expect to find better.
As for the "we don't have the assets" argument...
Even if that's true, whose fault is that? This team trades nobody and we still don't have anything to get deals done?
Overpay to get this done. The defense is in shambles with no hope on the horizon. Then we luck out and a young local kid asks for a trade... You can't expect to find better.
As for the "we don't have the assets" argument...
Even if that's true, whose fault is that? This team trades nobody and we still don't have anything to get deals done?
I'm not trading AA for Trouba. I still don't think the kid is that great.
Svech+Cholo+1st. Sure sign me up.
Edit-Don't trade Mantha either. AA and Mantha are two of the biggest forwards we would have. Can't afford to give that up.
Acknowledging that the Wings may not have what the Jets need(LHD), we need to involve a 3rd. team.
Det sends Nyquist + to Ana for Fowler.
Det then flips Fowler + Det 2017 1st. + to Wpg. for Trouba.
+ = any asset not named Mrazek, DDK, Larkin, Mantha and AA that Holland needs to make these deals work. This includes any roster player, expansion draft exempt prospects and draft picks.
Now with Nill finally gone and Hakan should be fired (or asked to retire), I see the Wings starting to finally start drafting better and getting better assets. Nill leaving is the a blessing. Now just need find a way to get rid of Hakan "gracefully".
Edit: read Jets board. They do not need wingers. They have too many. They only need top tier young defensemen or top line centers. If Devils can land Taylor Hall for Larsson, then Jets are going to make bank on Trouba.
I'm not trading AA for Trouba. I still don't think the kid is that great.
Svech+Cholo+1st. Sure sign me up.
Edit-Don't trade Mantha either. AA and Mantha are two of the biggest forwards we would have. Can't afford to give that up.