FlyLife
Nuthin but a G Thang
Morin + MacDonald
or
Sanheim + MacDonald
for
Trouba
Picks/Specs to even it out
Provorov is an absolute no-go
or
Sanheim + MacDonald
for
Trouba
Picks/Specs to even it out
Provorov is an absolute no-go
Since the jets are in a week position then how about gubranson for trouba and a 5th
Provorov and Streit for Trouba is fair (third party observer). Provorov has higher upside, but Trouba is ready now and right shot d are rare.
Sanheim, Streit and a 1st for Trouba is also fair.
I could see a pretty massive deal go down between these teams if Hextall has the nards to try. Philly needs left wingers and right D in their system in the worst way. Philly has buckets of left shooting, left side D.
Imagine Kyle Connor and Jacob Trouba in the Philly system.
Provorov, Streit, Konecny + for Connor and Trouba
Want to know who's in a weak position?
The Canucks.
Morin + MacDonald
or
Sanheim + MacDonald
for
Trouba
Picks/Specs to even it out
"Weak" position? No the Jets aren't, their in the driver seat.
Easy no to your offer
Nope, no need for us to take cap dumps unless we're being compensated for it.
They have an unsigned player whose value is probably going to start to decrease the longer he sits out.
This is why you take these rumors seriously, especially when they're persistent and coming from different sources. Winnipeg fans spent the year saying every Trouba rumor was absolutely horsecrap, all traced back to one single article that was completely fabricated. Much like Edmonton fans saying Hall would never get traded and Eberle would fetch them a top-4 defenseman, sometimes you have to remove your hands from your eyes and read the writing on the wall.
You are...you are getting an entry level contract for a player who doesn't want to be on your team and wants a big contract.
They have an unsigned player whose value is probably going to start to decrease the longer he sits out.
Ok get your lowball offers in now, let's hear them all.
I like how you phrase it like you're doing us a favor with that offer
An unsigned player who is quite valuable and wanted by many teams out there.
Really think there is something to be done around Trouba and Gardiner+.
Yet, he asked for a trade back in May and nothing got done.
The return on him will be less than what the Jets fans are claiming...as is always the case in situations like this.
I know why you think like this because you have been used to oiler management incompetence for a long time .
but this is how competent gm's handle it. you want a trade Jacob. good. we are not trading you,see you on dec 1st when you out almost a million and 4 years of rfa years are is still owing to us, i will have contract ready for you to sign then.
I don't think so TBH. While the Leafs should be interested in acquiring Trouba, given his perceived $ demands I think they will stay away. I don't think it is in Lou Lam's style to acquire Trouba and give him more money than Rielly before he even plays a game for the Leafs while Rielly has been our guy for a while now.
Now, if the Trouba estimates of ~6m is false (or just used b/c he wanted a premium to stay in Winnipeg) and he's willing to sign for less in Toronto... Then I think the Leafs will pursue a bit harder.
I believe the Jets have been pushing hard to get him signed through that time. They have always stated that he's been a part of their long term plans.
Funny. Heard that a lot during the Kane situation as well. Funny how we were very happy with the return when everyone else told us the exact opposite would happen.
They have an unsigned player whose value is probably going to start to decrease the longer he sits out.
You are...you are getting an entry level contract for a player who doesn't want to be on your team and wants a big contract.
Because what Cheveldayoff is looking for is quite unrealistic. There just aren't teams looking to trade a young LHD for a righty at the moment (see: Buffalo and Anaheim). Chevy's going to have to take a more seasoned veteran top-4 LHD (and a capable player, which Jack Johnson is) with picks/prospects to make it work.
You could point out that Ryan Murray would get the job done, but it would take a significant add for the Blue Jackets to consider. Murray, at the moment, is their best defender. Much like what viqsi pointed out, moving Murray for Trouba would put us in the same position as the Jets. So it would take a hefty haul for a Murray for Trouba+ swap.
Contrary to popular belief, Jack Johnson is a very solid top-4 defender when not thrust onto the top pairing with an incapable partner. That's why Jack Johnson + one of our prospects not named Dubois/Bjorkstrand/Werenski is a good alternative for WPG to consider.
That was a probably a mistake, don't you think? I mean, unless you welcome camp hold-outs...
Are you still happy now that Myers is a prime reason why Trouba is being forced to play his off-side and thus wants out? Brilliant work there by Chevy.
Nurse, Eberle, 1st
for
Trouba, Ehlers
And they were right. This is different. There were rumours about Trouba being unhappy with his usage and they were NOT being called 'horsecrap' by Jets fans.