RandyHolt
Keep truckin'
- Nov 3, 2006
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That is the most asinine thing I have ever read. I guess that is why Mitch and company are following him to the island because they can't coach either. I wouldn't doubt if he does not sign with the Caps now..he can go anywhere and he is really in a no win situation here. All he can do is match Barry, without Barry and other staff. Sounds like a tall task.
And I think they will. I don’t think 5x$5 is reasonable tho.
yeehaw welcome an assistant who has know other assistants staying with him..that pretty much says it all..arrogance..total arrogance..lets fire the head coach that won the cup and 2 pres trophies b/c the assistant is a braniac..of course the head coach did the most important job ..push buttons, especially ovie's. This is a disaster. Ovie and a lot of the players had a little hate of Barry..and they won the cup.I have no idea what you’re talking about. They’ve been grooming him to take over for at least a year.
And I think they will. I don’t think 5x$5 is reasonable tho.
Forsythe is staying.yeehaw welcome an assistant who has know other assistants staying with him..that pretty much says it all..arrogance..total arrogance..lets fire the head coach that won the cup and 2 pres trophies b/c the assistant is a braniac..of course the head coach did the most important job ..push buttons, especially ovie's. This is a disaster. Ovie and a lot of the players had a little hate of Barry..and they won the cup.
I definitely agree with your assessment of Barry’s ability to rally the players. But I don’t agree about his deal. He had one. He decided to renege on it, and the team, possibly to their detriment, let him, no strings attached. Good for him.Barry is at zero fault here. Mac wants his guy as the coach. There was no way around it. There was no deal for Barry. Ever. It is Reirden or bust.
Here is what I will say about Barry though - he had something no Caps coach ever had, and that was the ability to bring this team out of slumps. He did that every dang year he was with the Caps. Typically most coaches lose the locker room and get fired. But Barry had the ability to get em back together and focused. Which is probably the reason why he has been a coach for so many years. Not many have that ability.
We will see how Reirden works out. I hope he does. Players being complimentary of him is meaningless. Hell they said similar things of Oates.
Mac deserves the benefit of the doubt. He has been right about most things.
At the same time, me personally, I think Barry had a lot to do with the cup win. And none of this BS narrative that goes against it that some are trying to push will change my mind. Shame that some of you seem to buy into it tho.
I continue to feel that this reflects way worse on Trotz than on the Caps, and those comments only make it worse IMO. He negotiated a deal that was predicated on winning a Cup and then when he won a Cup, even though it increasingly seems like he didn't even really drive the bus, the team was ready to honor that agreement and maybe even improve it, but he made a stink. I get that from his perspective, he was pissed about not driving the bus, but they were gonna let him stay on as HC, give him a raise, and possibly repeat as SC champion and he was unsatisfied.
Interviewing Reirden next week?? What is he, off the grid? Maybe BMac is having a hammock snooze marathon.
I would have liked to hear Reirden named a few hours after Barry was announced, if not before. So, we are going to the draft and starting UFA chat week without 2 assistants / no head coach.
That’s all true and fair. And I will have nothing but fond feelings for BT going forward. I also don’t begrudge him his payday. That said, I don’t think he really was negotiating in good faith either with his 5x$5 demand.I don't completely disagree, but I don't think it's that one-sided. They didn't give him an extension, forced him into a lame duck year with an assistant breathing over his shoulder that was absolutely going to take his job, came close to firing him outright a couple times, and all of this was glaringly obvious, which also means that it undermined his authority and was probably more than a little emasculating.
Meanwhile, all Trotz had done in 3 years was take over an undisciplined, non-playoff team and average 52 wins a year, winning a Jack Adams and 2 Presidents Trophies in the process.
To be clear, I don't really mind the way the Caps handled things, but to sit here and pretend that we don't understand why he may have felt unwanted and underappreciated seems pretty disingenuous to me. It appears that the relationship between him and the Caps was awkward at best and toxic at worst, and I don't blame him a bit for opting for a clean slate (and a whole lot more money).
I'm grateful for what he did here and wish him well, but I'm also pretty jazzed about our clean slate.
yeehaw welcome an assistant who has know other assistants staying with him..that pretty much says it all..arrogance..total arrogance..lets fire the head coach that won the cup and 2 pres trophies b/c the assistant is a braniac..of course the head coach did the most important job ..push buttons, especially ovie's. This is a disaster. Ovie and a lot of the players had a little hate of Barry..and they won the cup.
That’s all true and fair. And I will have nothing but fond feelings for BT going forward. I also don’t begrudge him his payday. That said, I don’t think he really was negotiating in good faith either with his 5x$5 demand.
Why not? NYI pretty much accepted his 5x5 demand. Seems like it's what he really wanted.That’s all true and fair. And I will have nothing but fond feelings for BT going forward. I also don’t begrudge him his payday. That said, I don’t think he really was negotiating in good faith either with his 5x$5 demand.
I’m sure it was. But he went to NYI as a free agent. That wasn’t his situation with the Caps.Why not? NYI pretty much accepted his 5x5 demand. Seems like it's what he really wanted.
yeehaw welcome an assistant who has know other assistants staying with him..that pretty much says it all..arrogance..total arrogance..lets fire the head coach that won the cup and 2 pres trophies b/c the assistant is a braniac..of course the head coach did the most important job ..push buttons, especially ovie's. This is a disaster. Ovie and a lot of the players had a little hate of Barry..and they won the cup.
I can look at that pic and all my troubles just melt away.Here you go brother. Stare at this for a little while, you will feel much better.
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Well there was a deal. He was signed to a contract that had two more years on it. Not that GMBM doesn't seem to have been happy to let him out of it.There was no deal for Barry. Ever. It is Reirden or bust.
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There's no downside to waiting a few days.