Confirmed with Link: Trotz will not return as caps coach

[Empty Goal Net]

The Caps did good by Trotz in accepting his resignation and, further, in allowing Lambert to meet and presumably negotiate with Trotz's new team. Trotz has to knock the Caps/their offer at least a bit, because if he doesn't, it's even more clear that his primary interest is the $$$. Plus, it helps to maintain the illusion (?) that he was behind the team's adjustments. Does Lou really know what he's buying?

Caps also benefit by cutting the ties with Trotz prior to the draft. To the extent that BMac wants Rierdon's input on needs/moves/etc, I'd expect TR to be more engaged if Trotz is formally gone and TR is anticipating getting the HC job.

 

[Empty Goal Net]

I dont understand the problem with a 5 year contract. He is only 55. Plus, he showed this season he was very willing to adjust. In the fi nals Gallant was the one that refused to adjust.

Regardless of Trotz's role in the adjustments, as many have observed, 4+5=9 years is a long time for a HC. Few have made it that long (iirc, only one coach currently has a 9-yr tenure). It's one thing if you're looking at paying a fired coach $1.8 mil for a year or two, but at $5 mil per, that's potentially big bucks to be flushing if you axe the guy 2 or 3 years in. Yikes!

 

[AtNightWeFly]

Right? He's coming off as a big whiner.

Other fans have been calling him a whiner for years, I wouldn't know since I put him on mute for the last 2 but yeah.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Money talks, Trotz walks...

 

[StrikingDistance]

I dont understand the problem with a 5 year contract. He is only 55. Plus, he showed this season he was very willing to adjust. In the fi nals Gallant was the one that refused to adjust.

Maybe it was really Rear-done/Reirden/Rierdan/Reirdon/Weird-on who was really at the helm making the adjustments? Maybe that's why Trotz was so laid-back this year. He knew he was gone when they made 'the guy who's name no one can spell correctly' the Associate Coach and relieved Barry of some responsibilities? The most likely scenario to me: Caps won the Cup and Barry wasn't a key factor. If Barry was truly responsible for the team's success, GMBM would of recognized it and kept him.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

I realize it shouldn't but all this negativity coming out from Trotz sure feels like a gut punch to the organization.

Lol, couldn't care less what Trotz has to say about us now. Only one team out of 31 is the reigning champ, and that's us baby!

 

[hockeykicker]

maclellan isnt in a rush to get a coach

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

Is it at all possible that BMac and Lou were in contact before all of this stuff went public? Perhaps a handshake agreement about the Caps playing ball with this in exchange for some consideration on a potential Grubi trade.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

jeez hes still upset

I'd like the context for this quote. On its face, it seems like he's indicating he left on principle.

 

[stanleycaps18]

Of course he left on principle. He has been on thin ice for 15 months and it is clear it was going to be Reirden's team.

 

[RandyHolt]

Interviewing Reirden next week?? What is he, off the grid? Maybe BMac is having a hammock snooze marathon.

I would have liked to hear Reirden named a few hours after Barry was announced, if not before. So, we are going to the draft and starting UFA chat week without 2 assistants / no head coach.

I cannot be the only one that thinks the delay in naming him is odd, or meh PR at best. What more does Todd need to add to his resume? Maybe he has to interview well. I fear he wasn't the one pulling the strings all year after all. I sure hope he was, and that Gilligan got sort changed on the island.

Heh maybe Todd is playing hardball over you know what.

 

[Calicaps]

Interviewing Reirden next week?? What is he, off the grid? Maybe BMac is having a hammock snooze marathon.

I would have liked to hear Reirden named a few hours after Barry was announced, if not before. So, we are going to the draft and starting UFA chat week without 2 assistants / no head coach.

I cannot be the only one that thinks the delay in naming him is odd, or meh PR at best. What more does Todd need to add to his resume? Maybe he has to interview well. I fear he wasn't the one pulling the strings all year after all. I sure hope he was, and Gilligan got short changed.

Heh maybe Todd is playing hardball over you know what.

Deep breaths, RH. In GMBM we trust. UFA chats started today. No Caps GM under Patrick has ever had carte blanche to hire the coach. (I grant you maybe they should.) And Trotz was Patrick's guy. So they have to do the interview, but BMac made it sound like a near-formality. Ovie and Nick are excited about Reirden, and that counts for a lot. They said the right things about Trotz, but neither sounded too broken up.

 

[HandsomeTom43]

I'll love Barry forever too, because whatever he did or didn't do, I think he helped guide this team to the championship, but he is coming off as a whiner.

He needs to let it go and move on, if he'd done things differently before, this franchise has a cup before this year.

 

[RandyHolt]

Deep breaths, RH. In GMBM we trust.....

Exhale! I sure hope it was Reirdan otherwise BMac retained the wrong guy. The whispers he was making the right moves is offset by not just naming him already.

 

[Empty Goal Net]

///I would have liked to hear Reirden named a few hours after Barry was announced, if not before. So, we are going to the draft and starting UFA chat week without 2 assistants / no head coach.///

Heh maybe Todd is playing hardball over you know what.

I imagine Todd's their (BMac's) guy and the hard numbers/incl bonuses/term are details that need working out. Plus whatever sit-down with Dick/Ted before formalizing & announcing. If indeed TR had a major role in planning playoff strategy, then he is looking for a reward over & above the pay bump he got when named Under Assistant East Coast Promo Man. Hope it's not $5mx5.

 

[Calicaps]

I imagine Todd's their (BMac's) guy and the hard numbers/incl bonuses/term are details that need working out. Plus whatever sit-down with Dick/Ted before formalizing & announcing. If indeed TR had a major role in planning playoff strategy, then he is looking for a reward over & above the pay bump he got when named Under Assistant East Coast Promo Man. Hope it's not $5mx5.

Reirden is under contract. He doesn’t have a lot of leverage. Get promoted or get stuck working for someone else.

 

[Capitals40]

Maybe it was really Rear-done/Reirden/Rierdan/Reirdon/Weird-on who was really at the helm making the adjustments? Maybe that's why Trotz was so laid-back this year. He knew he was gone when they made 'the guy who's name no one can spell correctly' the Associate Coach and relieved Barry of some responsibilities? The most likely scenario to me: Caps won the Cup and Barry wasn't a key factor. If Barry was truly responsible for the team's success, GMBM would of recognized it and kept him.

That is the most asinine thing I have ever read. I guess that is why Mitch and company are following him to the island because they can't coach either. I wouldn't doubt if he does not sign with the Caps now..he can go anywhere and he is really in a no win situation here. All he can do is match Barry, without Barry and other staff. Sounds like a tall task.

 

[Capitals40]

Reirden is under contract. He doesn’t have a lot of leverage. Get promoted or get stuck working for someone else.

There are lot of teams that would scoop him up and fire their current coach in a heartbeat.

 

[Calicaps]

That is the most asinine thing I have ever read. I guess that is why Mitch and company are following him to the island because they can't coach either. I wouldn't doubt if he does not sign with the Caps now..he can go anywhere and he is really in a no win situation here. All he can do is match Barry, without Barry and other staff. Sounds like a tall task.

The Caps have not let Mitch go yet, and anyway, he’s mostly retired. The only other guy who’s certain is Lambert. People aren’t just making this up.

 

[hockeykicker]

There are lot of teams that would scoop him up and fire their current coach in a heartbeat.

but the caps will block, just like they have been doing for years

 

[RandyHolt]

6 Figures!

We have the only coaching vacancy, so we have him over a barrel. I want him happy, not pissed like Barry appears to have been. Pay the man!

6 figures + 10% bonus for a cup win.

Ironically, Barry helped maintain an increasing bar for coaches, making negotiations with Reirden all the more difficult.

 

[Calicaps]

There are lot of teams that would scoop him up and fire their current coach in a heartbeat.

He’s under contract with the Capitals. He can’t go elsewhere.

 

[Capitals40]

He’s under contract with the Capitals. He can’t go elsewhere.

What if he decides he does not want to be the Caps head coach. The previous one did nothing but win and was basically fired. What will their arrogant butts do to him if he is middle of the pack next year?

 

[Empty Goal Net]

Reirden is under contract. He doesn’t have a lot of leverage. Get promoted or get stuck working for someone else.

I understand that line of reasoning. I don't think it's leverage as in threats, moreso a desire for fair compensation. Reirden's agent's response could be, "He's your pre-selected guy, most of the better (AHL, collegiate) options have been picked up by other teams, he knows these guys and they're expecting him to get the job. Give him a reasonable raise and term and he's in."

 

[Calicaps]

What if he decides he does not want to be the Caps head coach. The previous one did nothing but win and was basically fired. What will their arrogant butts do to him if he is middle of the pack next year?

I have no idea what you’re talking about. They’ve been grooming him to take over for at least a year.

I understand that line of reasoning. I don't think it's leverage as in threats, moreso a desire for fair compensation. Reirden's agent's response could be, "He's your pre-selected guy, most of the better (AHL, collegiate) options have been picked up by other teams, he knows these guys and they're expecting him to get the job. Give him a reasonable raise and term and he's in."

And I think they will. I don’t think 5x$5 is reasonable tho.