Confirmed with Link: Trocheck traded to Carolina for Haula, Walmark, and prospects Luostarinen & Priskie

[Prominence Problem]

Elliotte Friedman's breakdown on his podcast today:
-Q did not like Trocheck as a player
-He and Tallon agreed the team is too comfortable and needed to send a message that no matter how long you've been here or how much term you have, you will be moved if you're not playing up to expectation. Elliotte compared it to Tallon "shooting a hostage" to show the team they're not kidding around.
-They wanted players who were more competitive (not sure if this was a knock on Tro or praise for Wallmark and Haula)
-Haula did not get along with Brindamour and believed he would produce with more opportunity. We rolled the dice that he'd flourish for the remainder of the season here getting a 2nd line role and playing hungry for a new contract.
-Elliotte also believes both prospects we got will be NHLers

1. I like the analogy of shooting a hostage. It's like with my son, when warnings Aren't Enough, sometimes you got to show that you mean business. I feel like that is exactly what happened in this trade.
2. Two episodes ago on Spittin Chiclets, Ryan Whitney praised the one Prospect, Priskie. Said he had a glowing college career as the team's captain. At least that podcast was good to admit they don't see enough Panthers games to judge if Tro is still a good player or not, so they really didn't give much of an opinion on the trade.

 

[RogerRoger]

Article from the athletic by some dude last name Bourne saying Huby and Barky shouldn't be happy. Then I read this part No disrespect to their additions of Erik Haula and Lucas Wallmark, who are good players, but Vincent Trocheck was the best piece moved in that deadline deal, and he was moved off of the Florida Panthers. My dude, have you WATCHED Vinny at all this year or are you judging him by reputation at this point? Like holy f*** man.

I don't think it's false to say that Trocheck is a better player than either of them. I don't think he's better than both of them and I don't believe Tro would be able to be better than them on this team and specifically this defensive system. The defensive system is to collapse and Tro wants to stay high to break out quickly, it just doesn't mesh.

 

[Chino Oscar]

I don't think it's false to say that Trocheck is a better player than either of them. I don't think he's better than both of them and I don't believe Tro would be able to be better than them on this team and specifically this defensive system. The defensive system is to collapse and Tro wants to stay high to break out quickly, it just doesn't mesh.

From what I saw it went beyond the system. Whatever it was (injury, lost passion for playing with the Panthers, other priorities like the newborn baby, etc.) Trocheck just wasn't the same player from 3 years ago. Lost a step or two after the injury which took away one of his best assets, never improved on using his teammates better and continued an exasperating trend of turning the puck over on a frequent basis. I haven't seen enough from any of the players we got back, hopefully Haula can take over his spot.

Some time ago I posted that best situation would be for Borgstrom to take over the 2nd line center sport from Tro and to trade Tro while his value was somewhat high. I think Dale got as good a value in return from a player that has not been a difference maker in over two years. Now, I keep hoping Borgstrom continues developing and shows the promise he showed this preseason.... won't hold my breath though.

 

[zeroG]

I don't think it's false to say that Trocheck is a better player than either of them. I don't think he's better than both of them and I don't believe Tro would be able to be better than them on this team and specifically this defensive system. The defensive system is to collapse and Tro wants to stay high to break out quickly, it just doesn't mesh.

center is *always* low - doesn't matter whether you're running man, zone, mix, overload...

 

[Stickpucker]

deleted...showed in my feed thought it was general board.

 

[floridada]

Elliotte compared it to Tallon "shooting a hostage" to show the team they're not kidding around.

lmao

 

[I am not exposed]

lmao

All of the other Panther 'hostages' are like can we be shot as well, and get traded to a new team!

 

[KW]

Elliotte compared it to Tallon "shooting a hostage" to show the team they're not kidding around.

I remember now why I liked this post. I thought hostage and Yandle were synonyms.

 

[StrangeVision]

This is the right attitude.

I kind of feel bad for him now.

 

[Prominence Problem]

The 2nd just ended in Carolina, 2-0 Colorado, and the Canes announcers just called out Trocheck for not bringing it for the second game in a row

 

[Boothinator]

The 2nd just ended in Carolina, 2-0 Colorado, and the Canes announcers just called out Trocheck for not bringing it for the second game in a row

Like we didn't see it coming lol

 

[KW]

Tro is ill. He’s got the coronationvirus.

 

[FrolikFan67]

This is the right attitude.

He got traded into playoff purgatory. Sorry, Erik, you’ll be a free agent soon enough

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Still cant believe Florida didnt have to retain salary

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

-3 tonight.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I can't wait for a thread on the mains in a couple weeks saying ' groundbreaking! Trocheck has been terrible for the Canes. Did Panthers win this trade??!!'

 

[Bure1096]

This trade has been even so far. Wallmark and Haula haven't really made a difference.

 

[KW]

This trade has been even so far. Wallmark and Haula haven't really made a difference.

But we can get rid of Haula and Wallmark at the end of the season right? So that’s the win. I mean if we had a good GM, it would be the win.

 

[Prominence Problem]

This trade has been even so far. Wallmark and Haula haven't really made a difference.

Wally had a nice screen on the only goal by the Panthers versus the Bruins. Goal is not going in without him in front of the net like that. I believe he got an assist.

 

[FinlandPanther]

But we can get rid of Haula and Wallmark at the end of the season right? So that’s the win. I mean if we had a good GM, it would be the win.

Haula will probably be gone. Wallmark isn’t going anywhere. He’s a good bottom 6 guy.

 

[iam76]

Haula will probably be gone. Wallmark isn’t going anywhere. He’s a good bottom 6 guy.

agreed

 

[KW]

Haula will probably be gone. Wallmark isn’t going anywhere. He’s a good bottom 6 guy.

I haven’t witnessed Walmark fitting that description. He’s more of an AHL type.

And Haula has sucked. But still, I don’t regret Tro being OOH.

 

[FinlandPanther]

I haven’t witnessed Walmark fitting that description. He’s more of an AHL type.

And Haula has sucked. But still, I don’t regret Tro being OOH.

An AHL type? Lol your player analysis might be lacking bad in this case. Wallmark is a a great bottom 6 guy.

 

[I am not exposed]

An AHL type? Lol your player analysis might be lacking bad in this case. Wallmark is a a great bottom 6 guy.

Acciari being so good as a '4th liner' has perhaps distorted peoples interpretations of what a standard 4th line player is.

 

[KW]

An AHL type? Lol your player analysis might be lacking bad in this case. Wallmark is a a great bottom 6 guy.

Maybe. Walmark hasn’t really done anything worthwhile yet though. He’s another Hawk, except less physical.