Looks like Lernout will not be qualified either:
So Shinkaruk, Audette, and Lernout will not return.
It hurts that the Habs traded up for this guy and Brayden Point when 6 spots after.
Remember when Churla and the Habs traded up for Lernout and selected him over Brayden Point, both from the same league?
Someone should be canned for that one
2012-2014 drafts are looking worse and worse every year. Yikes. 2015 isn't looking that great either.
They're probably even more responsible for the habs' performances in the last 3-4 years than 2008-2011.
2012-2014 drafts are looking worse and worse every year. Yikes. 2015 isn't looking that great either.
They're probably even more responsible for the habs' performances in the last 3-4 years than 2008-2011.
Easily the #1 problem with the Habs, imo.2012-2014 drafts are looking worse and worse every year. Yikes. 2015 isn't looking that great either.
They're probably even more responsible for the habs' performances in the last 3-4 years than 2008-2011.
Just before I'm being told how revisionist I am...here is the post I made back then about that day in 2014.....
- Wasn't a Lernout fan. Can't believe we traded up to get him. Had MUCH MORE players I wanted at that spot
GDT: - GDT: 2014 NHL Entry Draft – Round 2-7: Sat Jun 28, 10AM
Remember when Churla and the Habs traded up for Lernout and selected him over Brayden Point, both from the same league?
Someone should be canned for that one
That 2014 draft is looking abysmal.
Another strike for Timmins.
2012-2014 drafts are looking worse and worse every year. Yikes. 2015 isn't looking that great either.
They're probably even more responsible for the habs' performances in the last 3-4 years than 2008-2011.
It's definitely Timmins. I would only blame Bergevin for keepin TT the last few years. Timmins was alson in charge under Gainey and Gauthier.Easily the #1 problem with the Habs, imo.
Way too many draft misses/busts for way too long long periods of time.
Who's responsible?
Timmins? Bergevin? Luck?
Not good.
If it was just the 2014 draft I would say you're over-reacting. But that draft year is just one in a string of abysmal draft years from 2008 to 2016 and counting.
I would use definitely instead of probably.
And a couple of weeks ago they released Walford and Tyszka from the 2017 draft year. I wonder if they're just the vanguard of more failed picks for the years 2017-2018.
I was a big TT fan who was starting to have doubts of late but hearing that Walford and Tyszka were not signed just put me over the edge. With every freaking draft we hear how TT really nailed it and we now have one of the best prospect pools. And yet the GM has rarely ever any young players to work with.
After 16 years drafting for the Habs TT's contributions to the team right now are:
Mete
Lehky
Gally
KK
Price
That's pathetic. True some of his more successful picks were traded but they were traded because they had flaws and didn't help the team.
If Bergevin is a screw up then what the hell is Timmins? He is worse at his job then MB.
I agree with you. I went overboard with the traded players but even if we include them his record still sucksI agree with everything except I would remove McDonagh from the list of flaws and didn't help as it had nothing to do with him. You still have to add Patch and PK. For draft picks, they are great players. And you still trade great players. Despite their flaws. 'Cause if you think Patch and Pk had flaws, well I announce to you that Mete and Lehky have flaws too.
Watch out now. LG will come out in full force talking about Lefebvre and all. He is not necessarily wrong....but in the end, Lefebvre would not be able to turn a great player into a ECHL'er. So Timmins didn't give him enough great picks to be able to **** them all up.
I agree with you. I went overboard with the traded players but even if we include them his record still sucks
Mete
Lehky
Gally
KK
Price
P.K.
Patches
Chucky
McDonagh
Sergachev
Halak
Andrighetto
Beaulieu (is he still a NHLer?)
After 16 years those are his contributions. The record speaks for itself. And my guts tell me we;ll be disappointed with the 17-18 picks.
Awful 2014 that can only be saved by Evans. Can't believe they,ve traded 2 picks to get their hands on Lernout...lollll
it's looking brutal, but 1 pick in the top 72 is also brutal. We'll see what the pick we got for Hawkey turns into, interested to see what he does as I think at worst he can be a very solid AHLer so got to think some teams will be interested in him in August. Evans should see time in the NHL at some point but hard to say if he can end up a regular or just a bubble guy.
Sad when your 7th round pick ends up your best pick. Whoever pushed for Lernout and Koberstein, likely going for size like they did in '13 which now has been admitted as a mistake, hope they also learned from that. Also interested to see if Scherbak can get his **** together or not, it's been said he was never a hard worker so we'll see if this motivates him or not, Dadonov didn't do much in the NHL and then comes back after 5 years in the KHL and puts up 70 pts. Not that I would expect that for Scherbak but still think he has the skill to be a solid NHLer so maybe a few years in the KHL to work on getting stronger, improving his all round play will turn him into a better player.
We will always have to agree to disagree on that my friend. 'Cause having not that many picks, for me, does not change how you should evaluate a player.
Cole Fonstad was named to Canada's development camp roster for this summer's tournament in Plymouth, Michigan.
2019 National Junior Team Sport Chek SummerDevelopment Camp Roster
Good to hear... Timmins has three 5th round picks this year. I've always considered it his lucky round after Gallagher and Grabovsky, although Dietz and Hudon never panned out...