So convenient for Timmins that fans pass the buck for him, for free, on the internet.
A bad pick like Leblanc, Tinordi, or McCarron isn't his fault - it wasn't his pick. A bad development trajectory like Beaulieu or Scherbak isn't his fault - they had bad attitudes.
Maybe Subban and Pacioretty weren't his picks either, some faceless scout or GM chose them and they developed only due to their good attitudes. Why bother with having a chief scout anyway? No one's responsible for nothing apparently.
Yeah, somehow McCarron the big guy that hits and looks strong wasn't a Timmins pick 'cause you know...those types of picks that's not him yet....who picked Tinordi? That other big guy that is big and hits? I guess ANOTHER one of not Timmins pick. Surely another Churla pick before Churla was here. Probably was passing close to the Habs table and Timmins heard him talking loudly about Tinordi....
I dont know. Theres a few problems, too, as draftint 10th overall is a great opportunity, but it is usually wide open.
Well the answer is that it makes no sense to give Stempniak 148 points despite him being a MUCH better pick than whatever filler we drafted during that year including Lapierre and Co. Actually...it's a much better pick than Andrei Kostitsyn. Pints per game are fun, but longevity is also important. You cannot drool over a draft that happened 15 years ago and see that a player retired 7 years ago....
Leblanc and Tinordi were good picks. Ive followed both players career until their demise, they were both future NHL player until they started to get tossed around by Therrien.
Beaulieu was a nice shot at a good D, but he was not properly developped either and had a severe case of a lack of IQ.
Scherbak had no problems of attitude, but he was badly managed. Sly had him playing center while coming back from injury. On the topic of injuries, Scherback clearly was derailed by injuries. Should Timmins have foresight?
No but it seems that you do and it makes no sense man. I'm sorry. You following a player's path has nothing to do with what their ceiling will be. Leblanc quit hockey. Leblanc wanted more to be at Harvard than to play hockey. When they forced him to join the Q, that's where it got f***ed up....but not because they f***ed him up, but because it's clearly wasn't his goal in life. And you just see his interest by quitting at such a young age. Tinordi was NOT the best d-man in his own team. Tinordi looked always better because he was always bigger. Those are the toughest to judge but somehow you were able to analyse that? And since D-men takes a long time to adjust, why couldn't Tinordi get it going more once he was traded? Why isn't Beaulieu able to? 'Cause they were all f***ed up by the almighty Lefebvre? Wow, I know man, he wasn't good...but you give him WAY too much importance. And the only reason you do that is to NOT give Timmins the bashing he deserves. People talk, as an example, that it's clearly it was Lefebre as Timmins scouting was better from 03 to 07 without Lefebvre....but it makes no sense.
In 2003, no players in there were good enough to be proclaimed as A PRODUCT of great drafting. Are we really going to talk about Max Lapierre? I hope not. ¸And if people bring Halak....well can you imagine if Lefebvre would have benched Halak in a playoffs to make room for Price what we would have said for Halak's development???
2004: EMelin never played in the farm. Grabs had 1 good season, maybe he was a product. Streit never played in the farm. So 2 out of 3 never played in the farm.
2005: If Price was a product of a farm team, it's because of Gainey. Not because of the coach, Gainey told them to play Carey in the playoffs. But there is NO way that Price became the goalie he was because of the teaching in the farm team....Lats never saw the farm. D'Agostini might be a product of the farm team....and then died down as fast as he was brought up...are we really going to talk about D'Ago as a proof of a great development? SKost never played so much in the farm. Not a lot. Not enough to be a product of
2006: So Ryan White could be a product of our farm team....yet....he was a good scorer at the Juniors level....so was his development good? Or did it transform him a plugger?
2007: McDonagh never saw our farm team. We could probably say that Pacioretty was a farm team product despite not being there too long....but he was asking for it to get his confidence going. Would his confidence be shattered with Lefebvre? Was Subban a product of a farm team? Or he has in him to be a NHL product no matter who would have been coaching? Yanick Weber might be a farm team product...but are we really going to talk about him?
So in conclusion....there is just NO proofs that the development in our farm team was so great back then. And that suddenly everything post Lefebvre is Lefebvre problems and not Timmins.
