Training Camp Thread (Thursday = day off)

[Gurglesons]

Dude... You have no idea how locked down I've been lol.... And i don't make LITERALLY I MILLIONS OF f***ING DOLLARS while swimming in COVID as an actual essential worker not an adult playing a child's game

f*** this family rationale bullshit

Maybe you should've been better at hockey then, I dunno.

 

[KIRK]

I think we’ll make top 2 easily. At least it’s backed up by analytics and not just me being right all the time

 

[EightyOne]

Maybe you should've been better at hockey then, I dunno.

And maybe Kapanen could have been a professional

The world may never know

 

[Gurglesons]

And maybe Kapanen could have been a professional

The world may never know

lol.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Sprong, too

 

[Jacob]

Dude... You have no idea how locked down I've been lol.... I saw my dad once this year... My mom hardly, my sister not at all... And we all live in the same state

And i don't make LITERALLY I MILLIONS OF f***ING DOLLARS while swimming in COVID as an actual essential worker not an adult playing a child's game

f*** this family rationale bullshit

Kinda long so I’m either happy for you or I’m sorry that happened.

 

[SEALBound]

Questioning Kapanen's ability to fill a role based on immigration issues is an absolute hack statement to make. Sorry, Jesse, not sorry. Shitty take.

Guys develop in season chemistry all the time. Pre-season and camp where everyone who is a lock to make the team are only going 3/4 speed, is not the end of the world to miss.

This was a biased, agenda driven tweet. Jesse's already made up mind about Kapanen it would appear. I thought he was better than that. Guess not. I could see this from Ryan Wilson.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

The only real concern for camp is making it through healthy.

But I think it’s valid to say that Kap coming in cold to the start of the season does no one any favors.

 

[Pens x]

Questioning Kapanen's ability to fill a role based on immigration issues is an absolute hack statement to make. Sorry, Jesse, not sorry. Shitty take.

Guys develop in season chemistry all the time. Pre-season and camp where everyone who is a lock to make the team are only going 3/4 speed, is not the end of the world to miss.

This was a biased, agenda driven tweet. Jesse's already made up mind about Kapanen it would appear. I thought he was better than that. Guess not. I could see this from Ryan Wilson.

You are being fooled by the term “immigration issue.” The pandemic isn’t something new and unexpected at this point.

It was crappy of Kap to not ensure he was here. He’s now going to miss all of training camp. This wouldn’t be such a big deal if it wasn’t his first season with the team.

Do you think it would be beneficial for him to practice with the team before the season starts? We don’t have the luxury of pissing away the first couple of months to figure things out like in the past.

I guarantee you management isn’t pleased. Kap screwed up; not sure how you don’t see that. The guy has played in 6 games in 10 months. The vacation/family excuse is pretty weak by now.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Questioning Kapanen's ability to fill a role based on immigration issues is an absolute hack statement to make. Sorry, Jesse, not sorry. Shitty take.

Guys develop in season chemistry all the time. Pre-season and camp where everyone who is a lock to make the team are only going 3/4 speed, is not the end of the world to miss.

This was a biased, agenda driven tweet. Jesse's already made up mind about Kapanen it would appear. I thought he was better than that. Guess not. I could see this from Ryan Wilson.

Nah. This is a valid concern. It's pretty commonplace to hear a player blame missing camp after struggling to perform throughout a season, at least in the first few months. Not to mention he's gonna miss all the video meetings, which are very helpful in acclimating to a new system. Toronto plays very differently. Kapanen's supposed to be a mainstay on the PK here as well.

Then there's the power-play, where he's a valuable right shot. He could be a left wall one-timer option, which we don't really have otherwise. Now that's off the table, at least short term.

Kap's done himself (and the team) a big disservice here by dillydallying.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Questioning Kapanen's ability to fill a role based on immigration issues is an absolute hack statement to make. Sorry, Jesse, not sorry. Shitty take.

Guys develop in season chemistry all the time. Pre-season and camp where everyone who is a lock to make the team are only going 3/4 speed, is not the end of the world to miss.

This was a biased, agenda driven tweet. Jesse's already made up mind about Kapanen it would appear. I thought he was better than that. Guess not. I could see this from Ryan Wilson.

I don’t believe @Jesse intended to come across as you have interpreted it.

More that things are pretty good and this is really our only problem right now (along with ZAR injury, some may say it’s not a problem ).

Chemistry with Sid would have been nice to have in camp considering how particular Sid seems to be. Sure in season is what will happen but there’s probably less rope from Sid’s POV therefore Sully’s POV.

It is what it is though. He went home for Christmas which is fair enough but now he has to wait.

I didn’t see the tweet as malicious or comparing Ryan Wilson as warranted.

 

[Gurglesons]

You are being fooled by the term “immigration issue.” The pandemic isn’t something new and unexpected at this point.

It was crappy of Kap to not ensure he was here. He’s now going to miss all of training camp. This wouldn’t be such a big deal if it wasn’t his first season with the team.

Do you think it would be beneficial for him to practice with the team before the season starts? We don’t have the luxury of pissing away the first couple of months to figure things out like in the past.

I guarantee you management isn’t pleased. Kap screwed up; not sure how you don’t see that. The guy has played in 6 games in 10 months. The vacation/family excuse is pretty weak by now.

I guarantee you management could give a shit.

 

[Tom Hanks]

You think we’ll struggle?

 

[Tom Hanks]

I guarantee you management could give a shit.

The main issue is his visa changed from Canada to a US one plus wanted to see his family one last time for Christmas in a while.

Most players wouldn’t have had to change visa’s like that so I doubt it’s even anyone’s fault just timelines/wait times haven’t helped.

He had every right to go home for Christmas.

 

[Flying Dego]

Only silver lining if Kap misses a game or a few and Poulin looks amazing in his short camp audition...maybe he gets the nod.

Even if that happens we will get to watch a dose of Erod, McCann and Tanev struggle.

 

[Gurglesons]

Only silver lining if Kap misses a game or a few and Poulin looks amazing in his short camp audition...maybe he gets the nod.

Even if that happens we will get to watch a dose of Erod, McCann and Tanev struggle.

I hope they do give O’Connor or Poulin a look up there, but they’ll probably role Rodrigues on L1 and Lafferty on “L3”.

 

[canadianguy77]

His agent should’ve been on top of this no?

 

[Flying Dego]

I hope they do give O’Connor or Poulin a look up there, but they’ll probably role Rodrigues on L1 and Lafferty on “L3”.

We all know that'll be the play. I just hope Poulin dummies some of our guys and forces himself into a spot.

 

[Pens x]

The main issue is his visa changed from Canada to a US one plus wanted to see his family one last time for Christmas in a while.

Most players wouldn’t have had to change visa’s like that so I doubt it’s even anyone’s fault just timelines/wait times haven’t helped.

He had every right to go home for Christmas.

He had the last 5 months to visit family though. It’s not like he only had a week off.

 

[Tom Hanks]

He had the last 5 months to visit family though. It’s not like he only had a week off.

NHL didn’t announce a restart until Dec 20th so he probably already had plans for Christmas and I don’t even know if he could have applied for a visa before then

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

NHL didn’t announce a restart until Dec 20th so he probably already had plans for Christmas and I don’t even know if he could have applied for a visa before then

Much less get one processed during a major holiday.

 

[Ryder71]

He had the last 5 months to visit family though. It’s not like he only had a week off.

Yep. These players have had PLENTY of time to spend with their families. How much time does one need really? They're probably sick of the sight of their families by now. Beyond that when you have a job to do you make the necessary adjustments to show up on time.

 

[KIRK]

You think we’ll struggle?

 

[KIRK]

I don’t believe @Jesse intended to come across as you have interpreted it.

More that things are pretty good and this is really our only problem right now (along with ZAR injury, some may say it’s not a problem ).

Chemistry with Sid would have been nice to have in camp considering how particular Sid seems to be. Sure in season is what will happen but there’s probably less rope from Sid’s POV therefore Sully’s POV.

It is what it is though. He went home for Christmas which is fair enough but now he has to wait.

I didn’t see the tweet as malicious or comparing Ryan Wilson as warranted.

The thing with chemistry is you either know or you don't know if players have it pretty much straight away (whether it's sustainable over time or a flash in the pan thing is another matter). So, if there's chemistry with Sid, missing a game and a whatever training camp isn't going to make or break things in the long run.

As an aside, I'm kind of hard pressed to think of a case where I've thought 'these guys suck together or succeed in spite of rather than because of one another' only to see long-term chemistry develop.

 

[Tom Hanks]

The thing with chemistry is you either know or you don't know if players have it pretty much straight away (whether it's sustainable over time or a flash in the pan thing is another matter). So, if there's chemistry with Sid, missing a game and a whatever training camp isn't going to make or break things in the long run.

As an aside, I'm kind of hard pressed to think of a case where I've thought 'these guys suck together or succeed in spite of rather than because of one another' only to see long-term chemistry develop.

Generally agree and I don’t read much into camp/preseason games that much but more time to work with Sid the better as he’s very particular in how he wants things for a kind of new player.

Although if Sully has said that’s where Kappy would start he’s obviously spoken to Sid. We know his 2 favourites are Jake & Rust. Also the fact he’s been a Penguin before likely helps.