GDT: Training Camp 2018-19, Part II

[MintyFresh88]

@Montsy14 So you guess Mamin is the one who must bite in the Apple could be true. If you see that Brouwer and Haley bring the same Game as Mamin. Or only from the fact his more a 4th Line Player and we have plenty of Players for that Position.

Pretty much...if you send Mamin down, then you have Vatrano and Borgstrom who could fill in anywhere in top 9, if necessary and Haley who fills in on 4th line, if necessary.

Otherwise, you have Mamin/Haley as extras, both of whom really can only slot in on 4th line...Mamin maybe on 3rd line, but again, I'd rather have Borgstrom in that spot to start.

 

[Mogo]

Agree Vatrano should have the spot but I guess they see Borg's upside so big that it's worth to let him develop here.

I want us to give Vatrano a chance. I don't want to see us waive him lose him. Let Borg play few games and then sent down. Let Borg grow in AHL. Just look how it helped Trocheck

 

[Chino Oscar]

Mamin doesn't have to go through waivers...if we want to talk about where a player fits and roles on the team blah blah blah....MacKenzie, Haley, Sceviour, Brouwer and Mamin are all very similar in terms of what they bring. It's forecheck, some PK, some banging, etc. I like Mamin, but we have enough of that type of player already. Borgstrom can create and be a difference-maker, even if it's on the 3rd line. Initially, I was of the opinion that sending him down wouldn't be the worst outcome, but based on what we have in the bottom 6 right now, he should stay up at least for the first 10-15 games.

What's the worst case scenario if we keep Borgstrom up to see what he truly has right now? Give him a shot, if it becomes obvious that he needs AHL time, then bring Mamin back up in a few weeks or a month.

Here is the problem, they have given him all the chances to show what he has this preseason, played 5 or 6 games, played center, played wing... and he has not been clearly better than Vatrano, heck, he has been barely noticeable save for some fancy puckhandling skills. McCann and Malgin have earned their spots due to their play in the preseason, Borg? no so much. Borg is more "talented" than both of them probably, but at this point in his career he hasn't put it all together IMO. Send him down, get him lots of minutes in the AHL and call him up later in the season.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

I want us to give Vatrano a chance. I don't want to see us waive him lose him. Let Borg play few games and then sent down. Let Borg grow in AHL. Just look how it helped Trocheck

Yeah I don't mind I just don't see them doing that after giving that third line so much time together in the preseason.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Borg sent to AHL confirmed.

 

[Son of Petter]

Is Jacob Macdonald still up?

 

[EnforceTheLaus]

Is Jacob Macdonald still up?

Yes, he has made the team

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Borg sent to AHL confirmed.

Got some experience in preseason, now let's be patient with him.

"Dale Tallon on Henrik Borgstrom starting at AHL Springfield: ‘We are erring on the side of caution ... He needs to add strength, get more physical. ... We know he’s a gifted player with a bright future. We don’t want to mess him up.”"

Zero excuses for Springfield to suck this year - they'll have some pretty good prospects now plus some decent vets as well.

 

[Asheville]

"Open competition" my ass. Same training camp nonsense every year. I do agree with Borgstrom being demoted, but it's clear that they wanted to simply continue with the same roster that finished on an 8 (?) game winning streak. I get the logic, just don't bother with the pageantry of training camp. Have rookie camp and call it a day.

MacKenzie/Haley/Brouwer rotating in will be hilarious.

 

[iam76]

Nice I can go watch Springfield vs Hartford games now

 

[Mogo]

Any idea what Springfield lines will look like?

 

[GermanPanther]

"Open competition" my ass. Same training camp nonsense every year. I do agree with Borgstrom being demoted, but it's clear that they wanted to simply continue with the same roster that finished on an 8 (?) game winning streak. I get the logic, just don't bother with the pageantry of training camp. Have rookie camp and call it a day.

MacKenzie/Haley/Brouwer rotating in will be hilarious.

One Side Argrement, when you look how vatrano played, he was even near to Injury Loungo during Preseason, with his Idtiotic push into the Goalie and the akward landing on him.
He also made a single Goal during the PP set was set up from Borgstrom. So yes they better say befor the Camp, who get a Place and who not.
On the other Side, a few old Franchises in the League proof, when you give some Player some extra Year there development can be really good. And they didnt make the same mistake as with McCoshen and let him stay with the Team and dont give him expierence.

But to tell the whole Fan Base we have a hard Battle for the Spot, with Players who really had a Chance. But in the End the Outcome is, beside FA the same Roster that was really a tough battle. In that Point im also with you.

Any idea what Springfield lines will look like?

Good Question, i expect Borgstrom will be back as Center. I dont really see him as a Winger. And with Ang from our Prospect pool a good one two Punch, if both play Center. In addition to all the Veteran and other Players on the Team.

 

[FrolikFan67]

hopefully yandle isnt out for any amount of time. ironically gets injured the day (i believe) the nhl posts how hes 6th all-time in consecutive games played and can make top-5 this year.

if everyone is healthy come opening day:

Yandle-Ekblad
Matheson-Weegar
MacDonald-Pysyk

7th: Petrovic
IR: Kis

 

[Asheville]

Any idea what Springfield lines will look like?

When was the last time our AHL affiliate made the playoffs? Won a round?

 

[FrolikFan67]

Dadonov-Barkov-Bjugstad
Huberdeau-Trocheck-Hoffman
Vatrano-McCann-Malgin
Brouwer-MacKenzie-Sceviour
Haley

IR: McGinn

 

[GermanPanther]

When was the last time our AHL affiliate made the playoffs? Won a round?

Way Back with San Antonio Rampage 11/12 out in the 2nd Round. That was the Season when Shore, Howden and a few other joined the Team after Juniors.

Mistake 14/15 1st Round out but near the same Roster and Trocheck was with them.

 

[Jakeybonz]

When was the last time our AHL affiliate made the playoffs? Won a round?

when was the last time our nhl team won a round?

 

[Asheville]

when was the last time our nhl team won a round?

LOL there's a theme

 

[Asheville]

Way Back with San Antonio Rampage 11/12 out in the 2nd Round. That was the Season when Shore, Howden and a few other joined the Team after Juniors.

Mistake 14/15 1st Round out but near the same Roster and Trocheck was with them.

Good Christ that is depressing.

 

[Gentle Man]

Dadonov Barkov Bjugstad
Vatrano Trocheck Malgin
Huberdeau McCann Hoffman
Mamin Mackenzie Scevior

Please.

 

[Bure1096]

Borg needs to play top minutes, AHL is perfect for him. He'll be the first call up after an injury.

Batting, did we waste a year on his ELC last season?

 

[Asheville]

Dadonov Barkov Bjugstad
Vatrano Trocheck Malgin
Huberdeau McCann Hoffman
Mamin FanInTheStands Scevior

Please.

FTFY

 

[JP Mick]

When was the last time our AHL affiliate made the playoffs? Won a round?

2011-12 SA Rampage made the playoffs and won the first round against the Chicago Wolves.

 

[JP Mick]

Dadonov-Barkov-Bjugstad
Huberdeau-Trocheck-Hoffman
Vatrano-McCann-Malgin
Brouwer-MacKenzie-Sceviour
Haley

IR: McGinn

Don't forget Mamin.

 

[Asheville]

2011-12 SA Rampage made the playoffs and won the first round against the Chicago Wolves.

A long, rich history of excellence, I see.