Trades and Free Agent Talk - A New Season A New Thread

[dubplatepressure]

As others have mentioned there are plenty of benefits to playing and living in Toronto. There are also plenty of benefits to not living in florida, especially if you have a family.

I also think the younger generation love that attention and fame (due in part to the rise of social media) so you may see players more drawn to bigger market teams than small ones in the future.

Personally I would hate to live in a place without winter but that is a personal opinion.

I don't buy it, and it's obvious from what we see with tendencies with NHL players that they don't either.

 

[WTFMAN99]

None of them are likely good enough to make Kapanen expendable as a 2RW, they don't have the offensive upside. As a permanently blocked 3RW? different story.

That Korshkov though....

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[Walshy7]

$6.5M for Faulk?!?!?

 

[ShaneFalco]

$6.5M for Faulk?!?!?

Yeah go figure

 

[Walshy7]

Yeah go figure

That'll mean $12M for Rielly easily. Faulk is really an average at best dman

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm calling Doug Armstrong right now to tell him call us if anything is happening with Pietrangelo, Parayko or Bortuzzo.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Geez what does that mean for Barrie......

 

[4thline]

That Korshkov though....

Not ready to give up on the guy after one bad season

 

[al secord]

$6.5M for Faulk?!?!?

Faulk that.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Geez what does that mean for Barrie......

A lot.

Muzzin won't be easy either after Spurgeon's new deal.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Armstrong is destroying the market!!!!

 

[Ziggdiezan]

You're not wrong, in theory. Ideally, the goal is to have everyone on a value contract...to pay everyone as little as possible.

In reality though, all managers make mistakes...all of them. Some more than others for sure, but the point is every team is going to have some bad contracts....it's unavoidable. In that reality, I'd rather have my best players (star players) earning too much rather than the middle tier or the 4th liners....they are easier to move, especially when you bonus them out so heavily up front.

It is what it is. No one is perfect.

I agree it is better to overpay stars than bad older vets and have said as much. I have also praised Dubas for his trades and drafts so far. Kap, AJ and Kerfoot were also all signed at market value so that is good stuff.

That doesn't mean you should ignore the bad stuff, especially when it is a pretty significant overpay to a winger when there are already 2 big ticket forwards with combined earnings of 41% of the cap. Time will tell and I think Mitch will live up to that contract but it was an overpayment the minute it was signed.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I don't buy it, and it's obvious from what we see with tendencies with NHL players that they don't either.

Other tax free states arent getting the discounts that Tampa is. It is a team culture started from their 1st overall franchise center taking a pay cut.

I mean if Toronto was so much worse than places like Tampa I dont see how the leafs would be able to sign guys like Kerfoot, Kap and AJ to fair market value contracts. Shouldnt they have also received the 'Toronto Tax'?

 

[Walshy7]

Armstrong is destroying the market!!!!

Armstrong isn't a "young" GM? how did he get taken advantage of? almost seems like the market reset was going to happen whether the leafs had contracts up or not

 

[SeaOfBlue]

A lot.

Muzzin won't be easy either after Spurgeon's new deal.

If Muzzin is looking for a 7x7 deal, we wouldn't have signed him regardless of what happened with the rest of the team. He's not worth 7x7.

 

[Jozay]

I'm calling Doug Armstrong right now to tell him call us if anything is happening with Pietrangelo, Parayko or Bortuzzo.

Pietrangelo is coming home for nothing but cap space next summer. No need to trade for him.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Pietrangelo is coming for nothing but cap space next summet. No need to trade for him.

Hey, after we trade Marner, why not

 

[WTFMAN99]

Pietrangelo is coming home for nothing but cap space next summer. No need to trade for him.

If he hit UFA, and we had the cap, it's a legit conversation.

 

[RoyalCitySlicker]

I agree it is better to overpay stars than bad older vets and have said as much. I have also praised Dubas for his trades and drafts so far. Kap, AJ and Kerfoot were also all signed at market value so that is good stuff.

That doesn't mean you should ignore the bad stuff, especially when it is a pretty significant overpay to a winger when there are already 2 big ticket forwards with combined earnings of 41% of the cap. Time will tell and I think Mitch will live up to that contract but it was an overpayment the minute it was signed.

I agree.

It's weird having a reasonable discussion with someone on here.

Thank you.

 

[Rare Jewel]

If Muzzin is looking for a 7x7 deal, we wouldn't have signed him regardless of what happened with the rest of the team. He's not worth 7x7.

No he isn't, I agree. Which is why I still feel the trade wasn't really a good fit.

 

[SprDaVE]

I was pretty high on Bokk a couple years ago with our late first, but then we traded with the Blues to move down. They moved up to grab Bokk and we grabbed Sandin (And Durzi? Or was it SDA? I dont remember the pick we got for it)

Surprising trade from the Blues there.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I was pretty high on Bokk a couple years ago with our late first, but then we traded with the Blues to move down. They moved up to grab Bokk and we grabbed Sandin.

Surprising trade from the Blues there.

Ya agreed, looks like Pietrangelo is likely gone next year

 

[WTFMAN99]

If Pietrangelo hit UFA, 7 years at 8.5-9M I have to imagine is the cost right?